[p2p-research] present and future

Wed Jul 1 10:05:58 CEST 2009

I read today where the E. F. Shumacher Foundation gets 43,000 hits a day on
Berkshire Bucks or BerkBucks.  Do those guys have a theory of their
success?  Or a theory about money?  I suppose success in application
doesn't guarantee theoretical insight.

Hi Ryan,

I have no special insight about the berkshares, but I'm copying Thomas
Greco, who has,

Michel

On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 1:39 AM, Ryan Lanham <rlanham1963 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Thanks, Michel.  David Gurteen, Dave Snowden and others who run in that
> pack are old acquaintances of mine.  Jon Husband's Wirearchy is an excellent
> blog in that space...
>
> Snowden is sort of a British Clay Shirky.  Very smart, but smart in the
> peculiar way of saying very elemental things that are surprisingly
> insightful over long periods--like Shirky.  Not many people have such
> wisdom.  It is almost a naive legitimacy founded in simply mulling things
> over deeply again and again.
>
> Billing I have known of but do not follow.  I have not heard of Patricia
> Benner.
>
> Certainly there is nothing here I disagree with.  I still wonder whether
> the only real theory worth a damn doesn't come from tinkering with real
> problems.  Even someone as theoretical as Einstein supposedly worked almost
> exclusively with mental models of reality (thought experiments).
>
> I read today where the E. F. Shumacher Foundation gets 43,000 hits a day on
> Berkshire Bucks or BerkBucks.  Do those guys have a theory of their
> success?  Or a theory about money?  I suppose success in application
> doesn't guarantee theoretical insight.
>
> I do find myself most on the side of those who address real problems of
> real people today.  If those problems are intractable, all the better.  The
> older I get the less stock I put in large pools of theory--perhaps one
> reason why economics and political philosophy are so dull to me now when
> once I found them so very essential.
>
> Ryan
>
>
> On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 11:49 PM, Michel Bauwens <michelsub2004 at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Ryan,
>>
>> this should appeal to you, from david gurteen:
>>
>>
>>
>> *On idealistic solutions<http://www.gurteen.com/gurteen/gurteen.nsf/id/L004371/>
>> *    (top <http:///?ui=2&view=bsp&ver=1qygpcgurkovy#122087154d3613d4_top>|
>> next <http:///?ui=2&view=bsp&ver=1qygpcgurkovy#122087154d3613d4_L004388>|
>> prev <http:///?ui=2&view=bsp&ver=1qygpcgurkovy#122087154d3613d4_L004377>)
>>
>> Dave Snowden said something recently that typified my approach to
>> everything that I have done in life over the last 10 years or more.
>>
>> Knowledge Management should be focused on real, tangible intractable
>> problems not aspirational goals. It should deal pragmatically with the
>> evolutionary possibilities of the present rather then seeking idealistic
>> solutions.
>>
>> *Credit: *Dave Snowden
>>
>> And then I saw these two posts A Deficit View of the World<http://www.changingorganisations.com/2009/05/a-deficit-view-of-the-wor%0Ald/>and Three
>> Questions for Opening Up Possibility<http://www.changingorganisations.com/2009/05/three-questions-for-openi%0Ang-up-possibility/>from Stephen Billing where he makes a similar point and draws from Patricia
>> Benner?s The Primacy of Caring<http://www.amazon.com/Primacy-Caring-Stress-Coping-Illness/dp/02011200%0A2X>.
>>
>>
>> Stephen concludes his post thus
>>
>> Benner suggests that decreasing your reliance on a preconceived end or
>> means of getting there can offer a new point of departure for new
>> possibilities that were not previously available. To me, this applies as
>> much to individuals in their personal lives as much as it does to people in
>> organisations.
>>
>> *Credit: *Three Questions for Opening Up Possibility<http://www.changingorganisations.com/2009/05/three-questions-for-openi%0Ang-up-possibility>,
>> Stephen Billing
>>
>> And then yet again I got to build on Snowden's original statement with
>> this quote from John Deway <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Dewey> that
>> I found in the comments to the above post. The ideal of using the present
>> simply to get ready for the future contradicts itself. It omits, and even
>> shuts out, the very conditions by which a person can be prepared for his
>> future. We always live at the time we live and not at some other time, and
>> only by extracting at each present time the full meaning of each present
>> experience are we prepared for doing the same thing in the future. This is
>> the only preparation which in the long run amounts to anything.
>>
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