[p2p-research] Donation Networks

Samuel Rose samuel.rose at gmail.com
Sat Jan 24 17:46:56 CET 2009


So it was a pilot project. Not a project that took off then died. I see,
this makes sense.

Creating a maintained release of the code could help draw more participation
and interest in your project.

I am pretty familiar with Drupal development, and could recreate p2paid.

I was actually looking at a way to eventually allow people to participate in
such a network from their own sites, and that the health of the network is
monitored from the "site" that I create, plus your reputation, etc resides
on the site that I create.

On Sat, Jan 24, 2009 at 11:41 AM, <paola.dimaio at gmail.com> wrote:

> HI
> we developed the concept and implemented it, but never promoted it actively
> with the donor community, and neither of us is a full time social worker
>
> so basically, consider it still in beta, and we all got absorbed by other
> work which took priority,
>
> bits of it however have been fed into other projects, as the code was
> released to a couple of people including a team at berkley or stanford (cant
> remember)
> cheers
> PD
>
>
> On Sat, Jan 24, 2009 at 11:37 PM, Samuel Rose <samuel.rose at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Ps. an important question: what happened to p2paid? Why did the site
>> activity seem to stop after a while? I beleive it is important to know why
>> some projects like this succeed and some seem to lose momentum. It looks
>> like a very noble effort. Any anecdotes you an share are appreciated.
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Jan 24, 2009 at 10:29 AM, Samuel Rose <samuel.rose at gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> Paolo, thanks for your response.
>>>
>>> Is there an existing place to download http://www.p2paid.org source
>>> code? If not, I can easily donate repository space for maintaining this, if
>>> you want (plus issue que, and API).
>>>
>>> This is similar to what I am currently doing with
>>>
>>> http://socialmediaclassroom.com/repo/hgwebdir.cgi/smc/
>>>
>>> for http://socialmediaclassroom.com/
>>>
>>> And we also have http://socialmediaclassroom.com/development which is
>>> issue que and API
>>>
>>> Let me know if you are interested in that, and I am interested in looking
>>> at a copy of your code, for sure. Thanks again!
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Jan 24, 2009 at 9:20 AM, <paola.dimaio at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Samuel
>>>>
>>>> I have recently become a member of freecycle
>>>> and what I see is fantastic
>>>>
>>>> http://www.freecycle.org/
>>>>
>>>> old things get used up by others, then passed on
>>>> from spare parts to furniture, books, household items to the oddest
>>>> thing around (offered /wanted)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> also, we have developed a drupal based tool
>>>> www.p2paid.org which is free to use, open source if you want to
>>>> install on your servers and change the config/GUI etc
>>>>
>>>> hope useful pointers
>>>>
>>>> best
>>>> PDM
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Jan 24, 2009 at 12:07 PM, Samuel Rose <samuel.rose at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> > Dear P2P Research,
>>>> >
>>>> > After some months working privately with agent based Altruism and
>>>> > Cooperation models, I am working towards initiating an experiment with
>>>> with
>>>> > a small number regional and continental participants in creating a
>>>> balanced
>>>> > donation and distribution system.
>>>> >
>>>> > The system is fairly simple:
>>>> >
>>>> > Participants list what they need, and fill mutual needs. Each person
>>>> > maintains a "reputation" that is based on a "thank you" that is
>>>> received
>>>> > from the person they have donated to.  A tracking system monitors the
>>>> > "carrying capacity" of donations. "thank you" assignments to
>>>> participants
>>>> > are monitored, and so too are receipts of donations. Optionally, each
>>>> > participant may also register their own satisfaction with the system
>>>> as a
>>>> > whole.
>>>> >
>>>> > Total satisfaction, plus a "thank you" (which is seen in the system as
>>>> > individual satisfaction with what is donated) compared against
>>>> satisfactory
>>>> > receipt of donations (where you "thank" the other person, and thus add
>>>> to
>>>> > their rating), and a certain base level of overall needs met,  would
>>>> then
>>>> > give feedback to each user, showing that they may need to donate more,
>>>> or
>>>> > improve the quality of what they are giving to others, in order to
>>>> maintain
>>>> > total "health" of the system.
>>>> >
>>>> > In the United States, this is my proposal as a route for people to
>>>> > distribute regulated goods like food items, fuel
>>>> production/ingredients, etc
>>>> > in way that is legal, and that avoids "market" exchanges (it is legal
>>>> to
>>>> > donate or give items to one another in the fashion proposed above).
>>>> >
>>>> > As local food systems, and open product design/fabrication activity is
>>>> > already increasing, myself and others are seeing the above as a
>>>> plausible
>>>> > way to pool and share resources. Your thoughts are appreciated.
>>>> > --
>>>> > Sam Rose
>>>> > Social Synergy
>>>> > Tel:+1(517) 639-1552
>>>> > Cel: +1-(517)-974-6451
>>>> > AIM: Str9960
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>>>> > skype: samuelrose
>>>> > email: samuel.rose at gmail.com
>>>> > http://socialsynergyweb.org/network/services
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > "When a distinguished elderly scientist states that something is
>>>> possible,
>>>> > he is almost certainly right. When he states that something is
>>>> impossible,
>>>> > he is very probably wrong."
>>>> >
>>>> >    Arthur C. Clarke, Clarke's first law
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>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Paola Di Maio
>>>> **********************************
>>>>
>>>> Forthcoming
>>>>
>>>> i-Semantics 2009, 2 - 4 September 2009, Graz, Austria.
>>>> www.i-semantics.tugraz.at
>>>>
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>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Sam Rose
>>> Social Synergy
>>> Tel:+1(517) 639-1552
>>> Cel: +1-(517)-974-6451
>>> AIM: Str9960
>>> Linkedin Profile: https://www.linkedin.com/in/samrose
>>> skype: samuelrose
>>> email: samuel.rose at gmail.com
>>> http://socialsynergyweb.org/network/services
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "When a distinguished elderly scientist states that something is
>>> possible, he is almost certainly right. When he states that something is
>>> impossible, he is very probably wrong."
>>>
>>>    Arthur C. Clarke, Clarke's first law
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Sam Rose
>> Social Synergy
>> Tel:+1(517) 639-1552
>> Cel: +1-(517)-974-6451
>> AIM: Str9960
>> Linkedin Profile: https://www.linkedin.com/in/samrose
>> skype: samuelrose
>> email: samuel.rose at gmail.com
>> http://socialsynergyweb.org/network/services
>>
>>
>>
>> "When a distinguished elderly scientist states that something is possible,
>> he is almost certainly right. When he states that something is impossible,
>> he is very probably wrong."
>>
>>    Arthur C. Clarke, Clarke's first law
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Paola Di Maio
> **********************************
>
> Forthcoming
>
> i-Semantics 2009, 2 - 4 September 2009, Graz, Austria.
> www.i-semantics.tugraz.at
>
> SEMAPRO 2009, Malta
> http://www.iaria.org/conferences2009/RegistrationSEMAPRO09.html
>
>


-- 
Sam Rose
Social Synergy
Tel:+1(517) 639-1552
Cel: +1-(517)-974-6451
AIM: Str9960
Linkedin Profile: https://www.linkedin.com/in/samrose
skype: samuelrose
email: samuel.rose at gmail.com
http://socialsynergyweb.org/network/services



"When a distinguished elderly scientist states that something is possible,
he is almost certainly right. When he states that something is impossible,
he is very probably wrong."

   Arthur C. Clarke, Clarke's first law
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