[p2p-research] open source infefficiencies wiki page

Sat Jan 17 04:53:20 CET 2009

this would be a great integrative achievement ..

On Sat, Jan 17, 2009 at 5:18 AM, marc fawzi <marc.fawzi at gmail.com> wrote:

> Just wanted to say that I believe that in principle the key high-level
> ideals/ideas in Patrick's usership model, and specifically "trading at
> cost," can be implemented on top of the P2P Energy Currency.
>
> What we used to do in the telecommunications industry (e.g. TMF model) is
> to stack up the various models and present them in one vision. Some models
> are low level and others are high level and some in between/both.
>
> I should read the other models, besides Patrick's, but I wanted to forecast
> that it is possible in some potential future to see these model reconcile
> around some principles and fall into separate layers within one general
> vision.
>
>
> On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 2:16 AM, Michel Bauwens <michelsub2004 at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> we created this page for zbigniew's project, explained below, see
>> http://www.p2pfoundation.net/Open_Source_Inefficiencies
>>
>> a reminder of our other personal pages:'
>>
>>
>>    1. Adam Arvidsson's Ethical Economy<http://www.p2pfoundation.net/Category:EthicalEconomy>
>>    2. Christian Siefkes' Peer Economy<http://www.p2pfoundation.net/Category:Peereconomy>
>>    3. Chris Cook's Open Capital approach<http://www.p2pfoundation.net/Category:OpenCapital>
>>    4. Stan Rhodes' Peer Trust Network Project<http://www.p2pfoundation.net/Category:Peertrust>
>>    5. Patrick Anderson's User Ownership Theory<http://www.p2pfoundation.net/Category:User_Owned>
>>    6. Nathan Craven's Roadmap to Mutually Assured Production<http://www.p2pfoundation.net/Category:MAP>
>>    7. Marc Fawzi's P2P Energy's Currency<http://www.p2pfoundation.net/Category:SocialEnergy>
>>
>>
>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: Zbigniew Lukasiak <zzbbyy at gmail.com>
>> Date: Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 5:12 PM
>> Subject: Re: [P2P Foundation] New Comment On: Entreprise participation in
>> open source software development
>> To: Michel Bauwens <michelsub2004 at gmail.com>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 1:13 PM, Michel Bauwens <michelsub2004 at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > ok, you have pw and id right?
>>
>> Unfortunately not.  I have one for the Wordpress blog - but it seems
>> that it does not work for the wiki.
>>
>> Anyway  here is my intro - maybe it could be anounced at the blog?
>>
>>
>> The economy of Open Source - when self-identification is not efficient.
>>
>> According to "The Wealth of Networks" Open Source as an example of
>> Peer Production is governed by an economy of self-identification
>> significantly different from the traditional money market economy with
>> it's own quirks and inefficiencies:
>>
>> "the self-identification that is central to the relative information
>> efficiency of peer production is not always perfect"
>> (http://www.congo-education.net/wealth-of-networks/ch-04.htm#4-3)
>>
>> As a practictioneer of Open Source I can attest that this is true and
>> I want to research the ways in which it is inefficient and how to
>> prevent it.  The first phase of my research is to gather evidence
>> about the main modes of failure - this is what this wiki page is for.
>>
>> Note 1.  This can be widen to cover all Peer Production - but I am
>> mostly familiar with Open Source and also I believe that most of the
>> practical evidence will come from this narrow perspective.
>>
>> Zbigniew
>>
>>
>> >
>> > Michel
>> >
>> > On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 4:33 PM, Zbigniew Lukasiak <zzbbyy at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 3:07 PM, P2P Foundation <lifesized at gmail.com>
>> >> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > There is a new comment on the post "Entreprise participation in open
>> >> > source software development"
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> http://blog.p2pfoundation.net/entreprise-participation-in-open-source-software-development/2009/01/12
>> >> >
>> >> > Author : Michel Bauwens
>> >> > Comment:
>> >> > Hi Zbig,
>> >> >
>> >> > thanks for your offer,
>> >> >
>> >> > there are 2 possibilities,
>> >> >
>> >> > 1) just creating a page, called Open Source Inefficiencies, that you
>> can
>> >> > update and change, and that would be part of the Business section
>> >> >
>> >> > 2) the other is to create a personal section with its own tag that
>> you
>> >> > would add at each separate article, and that would find a place at
>> the
>> >> > bottom right of the main wiki page, where we store 'personal
>> projects'
>> >> >
>> >> > Let's discuss by email,
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >> Hi,
>> >>
>> >> I would opt for the first way.  My plan is to gather links to source
>> >> information on this.  I have also some theories of myself - but first
>> >> I would like to gather more background information.
>> >>
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>> >> Zbigniew
>> >
>> >
>> >
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>>
>> --
>> Zbigniew Lukasiak
>> http://brudnopis.blogspot.com/
>> http://perlalchemy.blogspot.com/
>>
>>
>>
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