[p2p-research] open source infefficiencies wiki page

Fri Jan 16 23:18:55 CET 2009

Just wanted to say that I believe that in principle the key high-level
ideals/ideas in Patrick's usership model, and specifically "trading at
cost," can be implemented on top of the P2P Energy Currency.

What we used to do in the telecommunications industry (e.g. TMF model) is to
stack up the various models and present them in one vision. Some models are
low level and others are high level and some in between/both.

I should read the other models, besides Patrick's, but I wanted to forecast
that it is possible in some potential future to see these model reconcile
around some principles and fall into separate layers within one general
vision.

On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 2:16 AM, Michel Bauwens <michelsub2004 at gmail.com>wrote:

> we created this page for zbigniew's project, explained below, see
> http://www.p2pfoundation.net/Open_Source_Inefficiencies
>
> a reminder of our other personal pages:'
>
>
>    1. Adam Arvidsson's Ethical Economy<http://www.p2pfoundation.net/Category:EthicalEconomy>
>    2. Christian Siefkes' Peer Economy<http://www.p2pfoundation.net/Category:Peereconomy>
>    3. Chris Cook's Open Capital approach<http://www.p2pfoundation.net/Category:OpenCapital>
>    4. Stan Rhodes' Peer Trust Network Project<http://www.p2pfoundation.net/Category:Peertrust>
>    5. Patrick Anderson's User Ownership Theory<http://www.p2pfoundation.net/Category:User_Owned>
>    6. Nathan Craven's Roadmap to Mutually Assured Production<http://www.p2pfoundation.net/Category:MAP>
>    7. Marc Fawzi's P2P Energy's Currency<http://www.p2pfoundation.net/Category:SocialEnergy>
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Zbigniew Lukasiak <zzbbyy at gmail.com>
> Date: Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 5:12 PM
> Subject: Re: [P2P Foundation] New Comment On: Entreprise participation in
> open source software development
> To: Michel Bauwens <michelsub2004 at gmail.com>
>
>
> On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 1:13 PM, Michel Bauwens <michelsub2004 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > ok, you have pw and id right?
>
> Unfortunately not.  I have one for the Wordpress blog - but it seems
> that it does not work for the wiki.
>
> Anyway  here is my intro - maybe it could be anounced at the blog?
>
>
> The economy of Open Source - when self-identification is not efficient.
>
> According to "The Wealth of Networks" Open Source as an example of
> Peer Production is governed by an economy of self-identification
> significantly different from the traditional money market economy with
> it's own quirks and inefficiencies:
>
> "the self-identification that is central to the relative information
> efficiency of peer production is not always perfect"
> (http://www.congo-education.net/wealth-of-networks/ch-04.htm#4-3)
>
> As a practictioneer of Open Source I can attest that this is true and
> I want to research the ways in which it is inefficient and how to
> prevent it.  The first phase of my research is to gather evidence
> about the main modes of failure - this is what this wiki page is for.
>
> Note 1.  This can be widen to cover all Peer Production - but I am
> mostly familiar with Open Source and also I believe that most of the
> practical evidence will come from this narrow perspective.
>
> Zbigniew
>
>
> >
> > Michel
> >
> > On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 4:33 PM, Zbigniew Lukasiak <zzbbyy at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 3:07 PM, P2P Foundation <lifesized at gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > There is a new comment on the post "Entreprise participation in open
> >> > source software development"
> >> >
> >> >
> http://blog.p2pfoundation.net/entreprise-participation-in-open-source-software-development/2009/01/12
> >> >
> >> > Author : Michel Bauwens
> >> > Comment:
> >> > Hi Zbig,
> >> >
> >> > thanks for your offer,
> >> >
> >> > there are 2 possibilities,
> >> >
> >> > 1) just creating a page, called Open Source Inefficiencies, that you
> can
> >> > update and change, and that would be part of the Business section
> >> >
> >> > 2) the other is to create a personal section with its own tag that you
> >> > would add at each separate article, and that would find a place at the
> >> > bottom right of the main wiki page, where we store 'personal projects'
> >> >
> >> > Let's discuss by email,
> >> >
> >>
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> I would opt for the first way.  My plan is to gather links to source
> >> information on this.  I have also some theories of myself - but first
> >> I would like to gather more background information.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Zbigniew
> >
> >
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