[p2p-research] Fwd: Where does the "lost" money go ? can we find it and get it back ?

[Nicholas Roberts]

Tax Havens: Hidden hand in the financial crisis
ANP: A look at how offshore financing helped to enable the economic meltdown
http://therealnews.com/t/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=31&Itemid=74&jumival=3067


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Nicholas Roberts
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On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 6:43 PM, Nicholas Roberts
<nicholas at themediasociety.org> wrote:
> thanks everyone for the detailed answers
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> most of the technical explainations are way beyond my current
> understanding - lots of homework there
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> but a big part of the answer to the original question was answered by
> some articles such as;
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> I wish there where more accessible dissident economists - again, no
> doubt researchable
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> Close tax havens and make super-rich pay for the crunch, says UK's biggest union
> http://www.guardian.co.uk/money/2008/dec/31/tax-tradeunions
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> The Financial Crisis of 2008
> Interviewed by Simone Bruno
> October 13, 2008 By Noam Chomsky
> http://www.zcommunications.org/znet/viewArticle/19111
> --
> Nicholas Roberts
> [im] skype:niccolor
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> On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 4:41 PM, Stan Rhodes <stanleyrhodes at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Thanks Michel.  I honestly don't know of a solid, comprehensive
>> primer, or collection of work.  Some foundational texts exist for most
>> of the schools of thought, but not a lot of work builds bridges
>> between the schools themselves.   The basic advice is really not so
>> special: find where economics connects with something of interest and
>> importance, and pursue from there.
>>
>> My research into Grameen Bank and Chris Cook's guarantee society, and
>> the discussions I had with folks at the money conference last year,
>> made me realize I needed a deeper understanding of the fundamentals of
>> money, credit, and economics in general.  From there, it has been, and
>> continues to be, a lot of reading, watching, and listening.
>>
>> However one does it, it takes a lot of time and effort.  There is
>> plenty of material out there--Wikipedia's economics pages are a good
>> gateway--but there's definitely a period of just learning the
>> language.  I try to get diverse perspectives, particularly ones I find
>> initially troublesome (i.e. ones I don't initially like, and feel
>> tempted to dismiss).
>>
>> Perspectives we don't like may be supported by evidence, even though
>> we want to insist that WE are the ones being rational, not them.  If a
>> perspective explains some evidence well, then there is value in
>> exploring that perspective.
>>
>> In that vein, recently I've found a lot of value in listening to
>> Econtalk, which is a podcast done by Russ Roberts:
>> http://www.econtalk.org/  It's biased in some significant and
>> noticeable ways, which has irritated me on more than one occasion, but
>> overall the guests are diverse and present a lot of interesting
>> problems and viewpoints.  Clay Shirky was on it, for example.
>> Econtalk also has thorough podcast summaries and resources for each
>> cast.
>>
>> Also, all Nobel prize economics lectures and articles from 2000 or so
>> on are free to view at the Nobel site.  That's probably a bit hardcore
>> for most, but some of them are fascinating.
>>
>> -- Stan
>>
>> On Sun, Jan 11, 2009 at 1:03 AM, Michel Bauwens <michelsub2004 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> thanks a lot Stan, I can see that you really studied hard and that you do
>>> have a skill to explain complex problems to the non-initiated ..
>>>
>>> I understand now that estimated value of assets does not equate really spend
>>> money ...
>>>
>>> how would you advise people to study the economy, starting from scratch? how
>>> did you do it?
>>>
>>> Michel
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