[p2p-research] p2presearch Digest, Vol 15, Issue 26

Michel Bauwens michelsub2004 at gmail.com
Wed Jan 14 15:12:06 CET 2009 

on johh: see http://www.p2pfoundation.net/Clippinger%2C_John

and more:


   1. Trust <http://www.p2pfoundation.net/Trust> (15,409 bytes)
   16: John Clippinger [http://www.jclippinger.com/science-of-trust/]
   reviews the science confir...
   41: (http://www.jclippinger.com/science-of-trust/)
   46: John Clippinger [http://www.jclippinger.com/science-of-trust/]:
   51: (http://www.jclippinger.com/science-of-trust/)
   56: John Clippinger [http://www.jclippinger.com/science-of-trust/]:
   2. Reputation <http://www.p2pfoundation.net/Reputation> (27,914 bytes)
   191: John H. Clippinger on [http://onthecommons.org/node/723 Identity,
   Re...
   208: See what John Clippinger has to say on [[Social Currencies]], from
   the sam...
   3. Social Currencies
<http://www.p2pfoundation.net/Social_Currencies>(2,324 bytes)
   3: (John H. Clippinger at http://onthecommons.org/node/723)
   10: John H. Clippinger at http://onthecommons.org/node/723
   4. Identity <http://www.p2pfoundation.net/Identity> (1,154 bytes)
   24: #A [[Crowd of One]]. By John Clippinger.
   5. Rennaissance of the
Commons<http://www.p2pfoundation.net/Rennaissance_of_the_Commons>(33,635
bytes)
   1: ... Framing A New Global Identity and Order. By John Clippinger and
   David Bollier
   6. Renaissance of the Commons - Part
two<http://www.p2pfoundation.net/Renaissance_of_the_Commons_-_Part_two>(34,830
bytes)
   8: ...aming A New Global Identity and Order.''' By John Clippinger and
   David Bollier
   105: 3 John H. Clippinger, "Why Routing is Better Than Sharing," November
   2...
   165: '''John Henry Clippinger'''
   167: ... Fe Institute. Dr. Clippinger can be reached at jhclippinger@
   mindspring.com.
   7. Code <http://www.p2pfoundation.net/Code> (17,590 bytes)
   51: * John Clippinger
   105: ...are framing a new global identity and order. John Clippinger and
   David Bollier
   122: ...Boyle's "The Enclosure of the Public Domain," and Clippinger and
   Bollier's "The Renaissance of the Commons."
   124: ... digital creation (the Second Enclosure); and the Clippinger/Bollier
   piece was instrumental in making the Comm...
   144: ...nd well-distributed papers by Ghosh, Benkler, and Clippinger
   /Bollier.
   8. Crowd of One <http://www.p2pfoundation.net/Crowd_of_One> (7,863 bytes)
   1: Book: John Clippinger. , A Crowd of One: The Future of Individual
   Ident...
   10: .../identityblog.burtongroup.com/bgidps/2007/06/john_clippinger.html
   14: .../identityblog.burtongroup.com/bgidps/2007/06/john_clippinger.html
   )
   21: "In *A Crowd of One*, John Henry Clippinger shares the theories of
   30: ...d lead to new innovations in social organization, Clippinger says.
   9. Group <http://www.p2pfoundation.net/Group> (18,063 bytes)
   47: ...refer to use the term group physics (or what John Clippinger has
   termed "[[Social Physics]]") rather than ...
   10. Group Physics <http://www.p2pfoundation.net/Group_Physics> (2,344
   bytes)
   4: ...refer to use the term group physics (or what John Clippinger has
   termed "[[Social Physics]]") rather than ...
   11. Clippinger, John
<http://www.p2pfoundation.net/Clippinger%2C_John>(695 bytes)
   6: John Henry Clippinger is a Senior Fellow at the Berkman Center for
   Inte...
   12. Social Currency <http://www.p2pfoundation.net/Social_Currency> (4,119
   bytes)
   7: JC Clippinger [http://onthecommons.org/node/723?PHPSESSID=97029...
   13. Reputation Tags <http://www.p2pfoundation.net/Reputation_Tags> (2,236
   bytes)
   6: JC Clippinger:
   14. Cloud Law <http://www.p2pfoundation.net/Cloud_Law> (5,222 bytes)
   34: My friend John Clippinger of the Berkman Center has described the
   virtual c...



On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 12:24 AM, Matt Cooperrider <
mattcooperrider at gmail.com> wrote:

> It's not really where my mind is right now either, but what Marc is saying
> really jived with what I heard at the VRM conference at Berkman in October.
> Doc explained that they don't heavily promote it, but hope that the right
> folks will discover it virally.  I'd encourage anyone to participate on the
> wiki or reach out to one of the members if they find the project worthwhile.
>
> I get the impression that David is not heavily involved, and I don't know
> John Clippinger at all.
>
>
> On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 9:53 AM, Michel Bauwens <michelsub2004 at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> I haven't really followed it up Matt, just through this:
>> http://delicious.com/mbauwens/VRM
>>
>> doc searls would be one of the key people to contact I guess,
>>
>> not sure how far john clippinger and david weinberger are involved,
>>
>> Michel
>>
>> On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 5:01 AM, Matt Cooperrider <
>> mattcooperrider at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Are folks here familiar with Berkman's VRM project?
>>>
>>> http://projectvrm.org
>>>
>>> For this discussion particular:
>>>
>>> http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/projectvrm/Main_Page#VRM_Principles
>>>
>>> Also, as usual, P2P Foundation page summarizes it better than the home
>>> site:
>>>
>>> http://p2pfoundation.net/Vendor_Relationship_Management
>>>
>>> Just tryin' to weave the ol' network...
>>>
>>> MC
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 4:48 PM, <p2presearch-request at listcultures.org>wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Bryan re-iterates a good and increasingly popular point regarding the
>>>> idea
>>>> of users having authority over access to their OWN data as opposed to
>>>> commercial interests using that data for profit, which will always
>>>> happen,
>>>> one way or another, unless the user is the gatekeeper to their own data.
>>>>
>>>> My own somewhat unique view on the social data debate has been that we
>>>> need
>>>> an encrypted Social ID card that is purchased blank from Staples or
>>>> WalMart
>>>> and populated by the user with their social graph. The card would be
>>>> much
>>>> like the electronic cards that companies give their employees to access
>>>> their VPN (virtual private network.)
>>>>
>>>> It's been my view that services like Facebook, GoogleConnect, MySpace,
>>>> and
>>>> all services requiring user data must authorize with the USER (the
>>>> owners of
>>>> the data) and be granted access by the user. Currently the plastic ID
>>>> cards
>>>> we have for functioning within society have nothing to do with the
>>>> online
>>>> world, and that is a good thing, yet there is an increasing need to have
>>>> an
>>>> secure Social ID card that lists our name, as we choose it (i.e. actual,
>>>> alias, nick, etc), and all our relationships that also contains our
>>>> authentication info (like a global ID) and that can be used just like
>>>> current VPN secure access cards.
>>>>
>>>> No company on earth should hold information about my social graph (no
>>>> matter
>>>> how open) and once I own my social graph and have it go everywhere with
>>>> me
>>>> (with backup of encrypted data on my PC) I may even charge services like
>>>> Facebook for accessing it. Like wise I could store all the pages I
>>>> visited
>>>> (optional, you don't have to) and charge advertisers for accessing that
>>>> info
>>>> on my Social ID card so that they can give me targetted advertising for
>>>> which they make money. RIght now Google is literally STEALING that data
>>>> from
>>>> users by having users consent to it without telling the users that
>>>> Google
>>>> actually PROFITS from that data. Facebook also profits from having my
>>>> social
>>>> graph data and that of 100 million other users. If users pull their data
>>>> out
>>>> and put it on a secure Social ID card then Facebook et al would have to
>>>> share the profits with the users!!!! whereas the bastards are making
>>>> hundreds of millions off of user data.
>>>>
>>>> When it comes to product/process data for peers-as-prosumers (production
>>>> inputs and outputs, including energy use, byproducts, ingredients/BoM,
>>>> environmental footprint, etc) that is 'common data' that should be in
>>>> some
>>>> open always-accessible, i.e. if I make some software application or food
>>>> product I need to release all metadata for that product into some open
>>>> database.
>>>>
>>>> But I myself is not a product. I have the right to own my own social
>>>> (and
>>>> other) data. I generate data through life (e.g. relationships, websites
>>>> visited, interest, purchases, etc) and I should be the one to profit
>>>> from
>>>> that data, not Facebook or Google who turn around and sell it for hard
>>>> cold
>>>> cash, without even having the decency to share the profit with me the
>>>> generator of that data and its owner. It's theft by mass ignorance.
>>>>
>>>> my 2 joule tokens <http://p2pfoundation.net/P2P_Energy_Economy>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
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