[p2p-research] is this the open social graph we have been waiting for?
marc fawzi
marc.fawzi at gmail.com
Mon Jan 12 21:25:17 CET 2009
Bryan re-iterates a good and increasingly popular point regarding the idea
of users having authority over access to their OWN data as opposed to
commercial interests using that data for profit, which will always happen,
one way or another, unless the user is the gatekeeper to their own data.
My own somewhat unique view on the social data debate has been that we need
an encrypted Social ID card that is purchased blank from Staples or WalMart
and populated by the user with their social graph. The card would be much
like the electronic cards that companies give their employees to access
their VPN (virtual private network.)
It's been my view that services like Facebook, GoogleConnect, MySpace, and
all services requiring user data must authorize with the USER (the owners of
the data) and be granted access by the user. Currently the plastic ID cards
we have for functioning within society have nothing to do with the online
world, and that is a good thing, yet there is an increasing need to have an
secure Social ID card that lists our name, as we choose it (i.e. actual,
alias, nick, etc), and all our relationships that also contains our
authentication info (like a global ID) and that can be used just like
current VPN secure access cards.
No company on earth should hold information about my social graph (no matter
how open) and once I own my social graph and have it go everywhere with me
(with backup of encrypted data on my PC) I may even charge services like
Facebook for accessing it. Like wise I could store all the pages I visited
(optional, you don't have to) and charge advertisers for accessing that info
on my Social ID card so that they can give me targetted advertising for
which they make money. RIght now Google is literally STEALING that data from
users by having users consent to it without telling the users that Google
actually PROFITS from that data. Facebook also profits from having my social
graph data and that of 100 million other users. If users pull their data out
and put it on a secure Social ID card then Facebook et al would have to
share the profits with the users!!!! whereas the bastards are making
hundreds of millions off of user data.
When it comes to product/process data for peers-as-prosumers (production
inputs and outputs, including energy use, byproducts, ingredients/BoM,
environmental footprint, etc) that is 'common data' that should be in some
open always-accessible, i.e. if I make some software application or food
product I need to release all metadata for that product into some open
database.
But I myself is not a product. I have the right to own my own social (and
other) data. I generate data through life (e.g. relationships, websites
visited, interest, purchases, etc) and I should be the one to profit from
that data, not Facebook or Google who turn around and sell it for hard cold
cash, without even having the decency to share the profit with me the
generator of that data and its owner. It's theft by mass ignorance.
my 2 joule tokens <http://p2pfoundation.net/P2P_Energy_Economy>
On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 12:54 AM, Michel Bauwens <michelsub2004 at gmail.com>wrote:
> thanks
>
> On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 10:12 AM, Bryan Bishop <kanzure at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Sun, Jan 11, 2009 at 8:03 PM, Michel Bauwens <michelsub2004 at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > This looks promising: http://www.cliqset.com/, it says all social data
>> > belong to the user and the system is built on that promise ...
>>
>> Characteristics of an 'open social graph' that I would start with:
>>
>> * users host something like lighttpd, a light-weight http daemon
>> except for 'social data services', or some module to the apache web
>> server, or something similar to this.
>> * social networking occurs maybe via FOAF(?)
>> * crawlers and other data mining services (third parties) can be
>> allowed to access user data on web pages (etc.) or not (robots.txt
>> exclusion rule)
>>
>> But for some reason everyone into "social networking" is into
>> submitting their data to some central website, instead of the
>> traditional method of submitting CNAME and MAIL-server records to DNS
>> hosts. Just layers and layers of solving the same problem in different
>> ways, if you ask me.
>>
>> - Bryan
>> http://heybryan.org/
>> 1 512 203 0507
>>
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