[p2p-research] Google to tear down social networking walls

[Paul B. Hartzog]

interesting that you should say this,
as I was just saying the other day,
that I am increasingly finding the following to be true:

1)  younger people treat my arguments as if they are self-evident and
so trivial as to be not worth mentioning
2)  older people treat my arguments as if they are data to be fought,
resisted, and thwarted

In other words,
the only audience for my arguments is people for whom these truths are
not self-evident
and who aren't really interested in listening anyway.

ironic, no?

-p


On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 11:07 PM, Michel Bauwens
<michelsub2004 at gmail.com> wrote:
> tough road, but many young people seem to understand it intuitively, as in
> the emerging open design world,
>
> Michel
>
> On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 11:40 PM, Paul B. Hartzog <paulbhartzog at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>>
>> As usual Sam is right on the money here.
>>
>> In Kevin Kelly's 'New Rules' book he points out that projects that
>> succeed will do so because they will 'feed the network first' i.e.
>> they will be part of a successful ecology of producers.
>>
>> I wish we could get more small businesses and cooperative workgroups
>> to realize that in order to succeed they need to first seek out the
>> others in their ecology that constitute complements to their own work,
>> producer bigger feedback loops, and more sustainability.
>>
>> Tough road though.....
>>
>> -paul
>>
>> On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 10:47 AM, Samuel Rose <samuel.rose at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > Michel, I think that the pace of change is going to pick up over the
>> > next 5
>> > years as compared to the last 10
>> >
>> > Soon, we won't be able to point to any one emerging service or change as
>> > a
>> > world-impacting. It will be more like collections (or "ecologies") of
>> > changes. There will be too much for a guy like you to keep up with! (if
>> > there is not already)
>> >
>> > There are so many reasons why this is happening that I don't have time
>> > to
>> > get into them all right now.
>> >
>> > One trend that is emerging is that many people are now actively trying
>> > to
>> > use several technologies in the practice of solving problems. And so,
>> > field
>> > builders, trend watchers, people involved in futures studies or academic
>> > understanding of what is "happening" will need to also be involved as
>> > observers and participants in what is happening, to really follow it.
>> > This
>> > gives a multi-way advantage to everyone involved, in that academics have
>> > more immediate connection to what is happening, and people trying to
>> > solve
>> > problems have more immediate connection to academic understanding.
>> >
>> > There is a new set of "business"/financial/operating models emerging
>> > that
>> > can support this. I can give several examples if people are interested.
>> >
>> > On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 4:46 AM, Michel Bauwens
>> > <michelsub2004 at gmail.com>
>> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> http://www.canada.com/topics/technology/news/story.html?id=05573e3a-47ee-4ac8-b8db-82986bc01c14
>> >>
>> >> how significant is the above?
>> >>
>> >> Michel
>> >>
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