[p2p-research] [Open Manufacturing] Fwd: there is no energy crisis

[Michel Bauwens]

I think we can consider this round as closed, until we really find new
information on the issue,

Michel

On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 8:16 PM, M. Fioretti <mfioretti at nexaima.net> wrote:

> On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 04:16:21 AM -0800, marc fawzi wrote:
> > The last thing I'd do is to argue on behalf of some company.
>
> the last message of this thread I'll bother to read may indeed be this
> one, if you please-for-the-third-time-in-a-day don't start following
> proper email netiquette. Whether or not I make enough money to carry
> on depends on how much time I spend to process email. Besides
> bandwidth, if you keep top posting and don't even start with an
> attribution line, I'm not going to scroll down and back every time
> just to figure out if you were talking to me or not (this is not the
> only list or thread I need to follow in order to work).
>
> > Having said that, I highly doubt that gallium will be depleted in 15
> > years because that assumes that none of the companies who have spent
> > tens of billions of dollars on gallium-based technologies have
> > bothered to research the issue.
>
> I think your assumption that the average CEO of these days does give a
> damn of where the specific multinational he's leading today will be in
> 15+ years is the weakest seen so far in this thread. This doesn't mean
> there is no alternative to gallium being in the works, of course.
>
> > The fact that all these powerful interests (who have everything to
> > lose if those substances cease to exist) continue to invest heavily
> > in NEW uses for gallium and indium (including post-silicon chip
> > technology)...  means that the suppliers are not seeing shortage any
> > time soon.
>
> If the executives of the 3 big USA automakers hadn't told their
> government "we kept making big SUVs which would only make sense with
> almost-free gas and an ever-growing economy until we completely
> screwed up, please give us money" just a few weeks ago, I may have
> less problems with such a statement.
>
> In any case, to cut this short: I have no intention to discuss your
> assumptions further, and in any case I have nothing to add. If you're
> right, that's great. I still think that if we have to judge from what
> came up in this thread your bases aren't any stronger than those of
> Cobb, but that's just my opinion.
>
> Marco
>
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