[p2p-research] [Open Manufacturing] Fwd: there is no energy crisis

[marc fawzi]

<<
Looking to the past and saying "its not happened before" is not a very
good way of predicting the future IMHO.
>>

It's called Bayesian probability or subjective probability. It's a
reliable way in absence of deductive logic.

I agree that optimism is naive. But that's a very basic quality of optimism. :-)



On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 1:37 AM, Josef Davies-Coates
<josef at uniteddiversity.com> wrote:
> 2009/2/19 marc fawzi <marc.fawzi at gmail.com>:
>> If there is money to be made
>> there will be a variety of alternatives.
>
>
> While I like your optimism I think this is a naive view.
>
> Ecology does not care about economics and you can't eat money.
>
> Looking to the past and saying "its not happened before" is not a very
> good way of predicting the future IMHO.
>
> There have never been so many people on the planet, we have never been
> extracting and consuming anything like the amounts we do today.
>
> We may not yet be seeing large industries collapse yet, but we ARE
> seeing ecosystems everywhere in decline, i.e. the very life support
> systems that make ANY industry possible. Isn't the fact that limits to
> growth exist obvious? It is well established that we've been in
> ecological overshoot for decades and this is unsustainable. And by
> unsustainable I don't mean "it isn't green/ nice/ fluffy" I mean it
> can not be sustained.
>
> There is no business to be done on a dead planet as someone once said.
>
> Josef.
>
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