[p2p-research] fakeness of recovery

[Michel Bauwens]

I put my hope in social construction, community solidarity, in which
technology is embedded

On Sun, Dec 27, 2009 at 8:31 AM, Ryan Lanham <rlanham1963 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Michel,
>
> You are of course right.  There is much in doubt.  My point is what is
> hopeful IS technology.  I am not trying to be naive and idealistic about
> what will undoubtedly be only an insufficient impact.  But THE hope is
> technology.  We are actually making little ground socially.  Copenhagen just
> fell apart.  There is much to feel gloomy about.  To me, it is a race.
> Technology versus doom (and I do not feel that is hyperbole).  I have little
> choice but to hope for technology.
>
> Ryan
>
>
> On Sat, Dec 26, 2009 at 7:48 PM, Michel Bauwens <michelsub2004 at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Ryan,
>>
>> the 'technology' for giving all Americans with debts a house was available
>> (letting the banks fail, and giving the $11 trilion to the public) was
>> available, but it wasn't applied was it ...
>>
>> sure, information network heighten speed as a factor, but they don't
>> magically solve social processes ...
>>
>> we are unfortunately, not winning the war on closed-mindedness ... the
>> whole of Europe is turing in onto itself and racist parties are growing ...
>>
>> really wish I could share your optimism,
>>
>> Michel
>>
>>   On Sun, Dec 27, 2009 at 5:46 AM, Ryan Lanham <rlanham1963 at gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>>  On Fri, Dec 25, 2009 at 11:30 PM, Michel Bauwens <
>>> michelsub2004 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> It's not just technology Ryan, but technology embedded in new
>>>> organisational, funding, and other social forms,
>>>>
>>>> Carlota Perez book is an excellent one for that,
>>>>
>>>> I think you really have a penchant for technological determinism,
>>>>
>>>> new inventions can lay dormant for decades if not centuries, if they are
>>>> not taken up in that integrated way by social forces and society,
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Yes, when information was sparse, that was the case.  Though changes in
>>> organization are just a different form of technology.
>>>
>>> But now, I doubt it can be the case that technology can lay dormant.  It
>>> is information sharing mechanisms that shatters times.  The Kindle device
>>> sold more units this Christmas than Amazon sold books.  Think of the
>>> implications of that!  We are rapidly moving toward hyper-informational
>>> protocols where old systems like books, journals, academic coteries, etc.
>>> are going to seem very backward indeed.  It is the organizations that are
>>> now hopelessly lagging.  Harvard and Oxford are a joke.  They have no idea
>>> how to respond to free, rapid, abundant data and ideas from large quantity
>>> open-source sensors and sharing systems.  They'll look innovative when they
>>> catch up.  The universities now are bastions of backwardness.  They are
>>> fortresses of darkness...like something from a Pink Floyd album, terrified
>>> that people are going to see how stupid it all is and how wasteful...the
>>> cozy and biased committees, the closed-minded journal editors, the
>>> self-serving university presses that protect a way of life more than their
>>> fundamental ideals.
>>>
>>> The Droid is blowing out of stores...totally revolutionary in terms of
>>> open source and open systems content.  The first mass market open systems
>>> device really.  In 2012 we will have 75 lap tablets in the OLPC system that
>>> are going to bring easy technology to virtually every child on earth where
>>> governments aren't completely evil (e.g. Islamic countries, state socialist
>>> countries, etc.) including full Internet access.
>>>
>>> We are winning the technology war on close-mindedness and hierarchy...and
>>> we are doing it with the market in tow.  It is very exciting.
>>>
>>> If that be technology determinism, then I plead guilty.
>>>
>>> By the way, UK scientists have just cured high blood pressure in about
>>> 80% of cases with a 1 hour 500 dollar operation that is trivial.  That will
>>> save millions of lives per year and extend life expectancy a decade in many
>>> locations.
>>>
>>> I remember talking to a venture capitalist once who said the real
>>> revolutions of the sixties happened in computer garages and in biology
>>> labs.  It was true.  The same is happening now. The world is transforming
>>> and 99.9% of the people don't have a vague clue about just how extraordinary
>>> the change is...one transformative technology after the other.  It is the
>>> organizations and the social mores that are primitive.
>>>
>>
>>
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