[p2p-research] fakeness of recovery

[Ryan Lanham]

Michel,

You are of course right.  There is much in doubt.  My point is what is
hopeful IS technology.  I am not trying to be naive and idealistic about
what will undoubtedly be only an insufficient impact.  But THE hope is
technology.  We are actually making little ground socially.  Copenhagen just
fell apart.  There is much to feel gloomy about.  To me, it is a race.
Technology versus doom (and I do not feel that is hyperbole).  I have little
choice but to hope for technology.

Ryan

On Sat, Dec 26, 2009 at 7:48 PM, Michel Bauwens <michelsub2004 at gmail.com>wrote:

> Ryan,
>
> the 'technology' for giving all Americans with debts a house was available
> (letting the banks fail, and giving the $11 trilion to the public) was
> available, but it wasn't applied was it ...
>
> sure, information network heighten speed as a factor, but they don't
> magically solve social processes ...
>
> we are unfortunately, not winning the war on closed-mindedness ... the
> whole of Europe is turing in onto itself and racist parties are growing ...
>
> really wish I could share your optimism,
>
> Michel
>
> On Sun, Dec 27, 2009 at 5:46 AM, Ryan Lanham <rlanham1963 at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>>  On Fri, Dec 25, 2009 at 11:30 PM, Michel Bauwens <
>> michelsub2004 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> It's not just technology Ryan, but technology embedded in new
>>> organisational, funding, and other social forms,
>>>
>>> Carlota Perez book is an excellent one for that,
>>>
>>> I think you really have a penchant for technological determinism,
>>>
>>> new inventions can lay dormant for decades if not centuries, if they are
>>> not taken up in that integrated way by social forces and society,
>>>
>>>
>> Yes, when information was sparse, that was the case.  Though changes in
>> organization are just a different form of technology.
>>
>> But now, I doubt it can be the case that technology can lay dormant.  It
>> is information sharing mechanisms that shatters times.  The Kindle device
>> sold more units this Christmas than Amazon sold books.  Think of the
>> implications of that!  We are rapidly moving toward hyper-informational
>> protocols where old systems like books, journals, academic coteries, etc.
>> are going to seem very backward indeed.  It is the organizations that are
>> now hopelessly lagging.  Harvard and Oxford are a joke.  They have no idea
>> how to respond to free, rapid, abundant data and ideas from large quantity
>> open-source sensors and sharing systems.  They'll look innovative when they
>> catch up.  The universities now are bastions of backwardness.  They are
>> fortresses of darkness...like something from a Pink Floyd album, terrified
>> that people are going to see how stupid it all is and how wasteful...the
>> cozy and biased committees, the closed-minded journal editors, the
>> self-serving university presses that protect a way of life more than their
>> fundamental ideals.
>>
>> The Droid is blowing out of stores...totally revolutionary in terms of
>> open source and open systems content.  The first mass market open systems
>> device really.  In 2012 we will have 75 lap tablets in the OLPC system that
>> are going to bring easy technology to virtually every child on earth where
>> governments aren't completely evil (e.g. Islamic countries, state socialist
>> countries, etc.) including full Internet access.
>>
>> We are winning the technology war on close-mindedness and hierarchy...and
>> we are doing it with the market in tow.  It is very exciting.
>>
>> If that be technology determinism, then I plead guilty.
>>
>> By the way, UK scientists have just cured high blood pressure in about 80%
>> of cases with a 1 hour 500 dollar operation that is trivial.  That will save
>> millions of lives per year and extend life expectancy a decade in many
>> locations.
>>
>> I remember talking to a venture capitalist once who said the real
>> revolutions of the sixties happened in computer garages and in biology
>> labs.  It was true.  The same is happening now. The world is transforming
>> and 99.9% of the people don't have a vague clue about just how extraordinary
>> the change is...one transformative technology after the other.  It is the
>> organizations and the social mores that are primitive.
>>
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