[p2p-research] fakeness of recovery

[Michel Bauwens]

Ryan,

the 'technology' for giving all Americans with debts a house was available
(letting the banks fail, and giving the $11 trilion to the public) was
available, but it wasn't applied was it ...

sure, information network heighten speed as a factor, but they don't
magically solve social processes ...

we are unfortunately, not winning the war on closed-mindedness ... the whole
of Europe is turing in onto itself and racist parties are growing ...

really wish I could share your optimism,

Michel

On Sun, Dec 27, 2009 at 5:46 AM, Ryan Lanham <rlanham1963 at gmail.com> wrote:

>  On Fri, Dec 25, 2009 at 11:30 PM, Michel Bauwens <michelsub2004 at gmail.com
> > wrote:
>
>> It's not just technology Ryan, but technology embedded in new
>> organisational, funding, and other social forms,
>>
>> Carlota Perez book is an excellent one for that,
>>
>> I think you really have a penchant for technological determinism,
>>
>> new inventions can lay dormant for decades if not centuries, if they are
>> not taken up in that integrated way by social forces and society,
>>
>>
> Yes, when information was sparse, that was the case.  Though changes in
> organization are just a different form of technology.
>
> But now, I doubt it can be the case that technology can lay dormant.  It is
> information sharing mechanisms that shatters times.  The Kindle device sold
> more units this Christmas than Amazon sold books.  Think of the implications
> of that!  We are rapidly moving toward hyper-informational protocols where
> old systems like books, journals, academic coteries, etc. are going to seem
> very backward indeed.  It is the organizations that are now hopelessly
> lagging.  Harvard and Oxford are a joke.  They have no idea how to respond
> to free, rapid, abundant data and ideas from large quantity open-source
> sensors and sharing systems.  They'll look innovative when they catch up.
> The universities now are bastions of backwardness.  They are fortresses of
> darkness...like something from a Pink Floyd album, terrified that people are
> going to see how stupid it all is and how wasteful...the cozy and biased
> committees, the closed-minded journal editors, the self-serving university
> presses that protect a way of life more than their fundamental ideals.
>
> The Droid is blowing out of stores...totally revolutionary in terms of open
> source and open systems content.  The first mass market open systems device
> really.  In 2012 we will have 75 lap tablets in the OLPC system that are
> going to bring easy technology to virtually every child on earth where
> governments aren't completely evil (e.g. Islamic countries, state socialist
> countries, etc.) including full Internet access.
>
> We are winning the technology war on close-mindedness and hierarchy...and
> we are doing it with the market in tow.  It is very exciting.
>
> If that be technology determinism, then I plead guilty.
>
> By the way, UK scientists have just cured high blood pressure in about 80%
> of cases with a 1 hour 500 dollar operation that is trivial.  That will save
> millions of lives per year and extend life expectancy a decade in many
> locations.
>
> I remember talking to a venture capitalist once who said the real
> revolutions of the sixties happened in computer garages and in biology
> labs.  It was true.  The same is happening now. The world is transforming
> and 99.9% of the people don't have a vague clue about just how extraordinary
> the change is...one transformative technology after the other.  It is the
> organizations and the social mores that are primitive.
>



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