[p2p-research] Drone hacking

[Michel Bauwens]

our ethical record is mixed, and unfortunately, we don't have anybody to
cede it to, this is why we need to develop it further, in a p2p way,

the neural alchemist trilogy of peter hamilton has a interesting thesis: no
space civilisation made it without such a ethical breakthrough, that must
occur when a planetary civilisation reaches the stage where it can destroy
itself ... exactly the stage where we are now!

Michel

On Fri, Dec 25, 2009 at 1:13 AM, Ryan Lanham <rlanham1963 at gmail.com> wrote:

> On 12/24/09, Michel Bauwens <michelsub2004 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Machines and AI will continue to amplify and improve on our externalized
>> powers, as they've always done, only more so. They are and will be
>> especially useful in their capacity to replace hard and rote activities,
>> both mental and physical, but they will not replace us as living intentional
>> and social beings, nor take away the need for ethical and complex judgement,
>> though they will offer us a vastly better informational basis to do so.
>>
>
> I don't think that will be their aim.  I don't aim to replace horses or
> dogs by buying a tractor or a security system.  Roles and responsibilities
> change.
>
> As for ethical judgment, we don't have much of a record.  I'd just as soon
> cede power.  The orginal 1950s film "The Day the Earth Stood Still" depicted
> this quite nicely.
>
> I'm not talking about tools.  Tools as a concept requires a certain moral
> elitism.  We use.  Why?  Why can't they be autonomous?  In fact, I can't
> imagine they wouldn't be.
>
>
>>
>> Transhumanism as a movement is probably the worst possible technology
>> politics, driven as it is by unconscious religious desires for escaping the
>> human condition, simplistic and reductionist technological determinism,
>> unwilling to see the larger political economy in which technological
>> development occurs, and beholden as many of its researchers are to the
>> military-industrial complex.
>>
>> Ryan, the silly beliefs of transhumanists are not salesmanship, but true
>> articles of faith, unfortunately.
>>
>
> I'm sure it is for some.  But it won't be in the long run.  Whatever people
> who call themselves transhumanists think now, they are probably like the
> first biologists who stumbled into eugenics.  Their approach isn't
> wrong...their level of social development is.
>
> Ryan
>
>


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