[p2p-research] Drone hacking

[Michel Bauwens]

I don't think anyone here sees free will as a binary or absolute state, but
rather in polarity with determination

ok, a probability, that's more like it, that's no longer a absolute claim,

indeed the whole history of capitalist marketing is an effort to get better
and better at it, and I have no doubt that with all the traces we are
leaving, this will improve more and more over time

On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 12:17 AM, J. Andrew Rogers
<reality.miner at gmail.com>wrote:

> On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 2:39 AM, Michel Bauwens <michelsub2004 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > to prove mathematically that humans have no free will, come on, that must
> be
> > the worst possible category error ...
>
>
> The category error is in thinking that "free will" is a binary state
> or non-contextual.  There are limits to how grossly we can simplify
> what the mathematics actually says here.  If a computer can predict
> every single decision you make throughout the day with 85% (random
> number) accuracy, you are not predictable in a deterministic sense --
> no one ever will be -- but you are predictable for all practical
> purposes.
>
> One can trivially derive a working concept of "free will" from the
> Invariance Theorem in information theory: no machine can perfectly
> predict the behavior of a machine of equal or greater size in *any*
> case, including itself. In more restricted cases, there are algorithms
> that are opaque to induction by vastly larger machines -- encryption
> is based on this. In other words, the mathematics requires that we see
> ourselves as unpredictable even if there is a context in which we
> *are* predictable.
>
> Behavioral prediction is not a binary thing. The prediction error,
> assuming the Solomonoff ideal, is a function of relative machine size
> and certain machine characteristics. Any prediction error that is less
> than chance says something about the complexity of the machinery being
> predicted and in many cases is exploitable.
>
>
> --
> J. Andrew Rogers
> realityminer.blogspot.com
>



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