[p2p-research] Drone hacking

Michel Bauwens michelsub2004 at gmail.com
Tue Dec 22 11:39:58 CET 2009


to prove mathematically that humans have no free will, come on, that must be
the worst possible category error ...

would you be convinced by a mathematical proof of God?

her business card is at home, will check,

Michel

On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 4:09 PM, J. Andrew Rogers
<reality.miner at gmail.com>wrote:

> On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 8:36 PM, Michel Bauwens <michelsub2004 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > I had a talk with cognitive neuro-scientist Sarah Van Gelder in TEDx last
> > month,
>
>
> Sarah van Gelder is who?  There is no cognitive neuroscientist by that
> name that Google is aware of.  The only person I found by that name
> who was also at TED is a political activist without a hint of
> cognitive (or computer) science background. Cite please....
>
>
> > I asked her what she thought about the theses expounded by J. Andrew and
> > given faith to by Ryan, "the brain is a machine, computer" and all
> > individuals are totally predictable, given enough knowledge of math and
> > computers.
> >
> > Her answer: "oh my god, those naive ideas have been abandoned at least
> since
> > the 80's, no serious cognitive scientist would adhere to them"
>
>
> So a quote from a fake cognitive scientist automagically invalidates
> all trivially verifiable mathematical and scientific arguments? My
> assertion is mathematical. If I am materially incorrect, it should be
> trivial to prove it. We don't need to appeal to the flimsiest of
> authority.
>
> I realize that I am goring sacred cows, to mix a metaphor, but only in
> the sense that evolutionary biologists do the same with respect to
> Biblical Creationists. It is a religious belief for many people
> obviously, but for me it is just a useful tool that works very well.
>
>
> Unlike some other areas of discussion where I am merely an interested
> amateur, I have domain expertise in this particular case. I have a
> hard time getting mystical about something that has all the mystery
> (to me) of balancing a checkbook. It is simple and elegant, though in
> the sense that a high-order function is.
>
>
> --
> J. Andrew Rogers
> realityminer.blogspot.com
>



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