[p2p-research] tale of a stolen computer

marc fawzi marc.fawzi at gmail.com
Thu Apr 30 14:03:58 CEST 2009


If the Fundable experiment works (if people use the Fudnable application to
donate to Michel) then we would see that it works (i.e. people like to use a
transparent zero-risk way to raise funds with others) and we would be
encouraged to raise some money to clone Fundable (on fundable itself!!! to
make a statement, which I think is an important aspect to ths storytelling
afterwards) then outsource and manage the development of it, collectively.
It's very simple to build a similar application, and then we can all be
proud of creating a true p2p alternative (i.e. one without outrageous fee)
that serves our own money needs... and currencies can be built on top of
that, etc, although that's extremely far thinking, but I wanna explicitly
state where I see us going with this... if it works.

In any case, I'm committed to closing the Fundable fund successfuly,
including donating the full amount. Michel could use any contribution. He
has delivered immense value and deserves maximum support, especially when it
creates an opportunity for us to make the change we want happen, through
careful but bold steps!


On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 4:38 AM, <paola.dimaio at gmail.com> wrote:

> actually I had not realised it would cost 10 pc. is that on top of
> paypal/credit card fees?
> you are right, its unnecessary cause no real value is added other thank
> tracking the fund
> just start a page, any page on any wiki, saying what you ahve contributed
> so that we can keep
> track of the progress of the contributions
>
> On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 12:30 PM, Christian Siefkes <christian at siefkes.net
> > wrote:
>
>> marc fawzi wrote:
>> > We've made the decision to try this route and we'll bite the cost this
>> > time, but you're very encouraged to PayPal Michel directly if you can't
>> > justify the Fundable model.
>>
>> Michel, if you give me your Paypad details I'll donate a (small -- don't
>> have a regular income at the moment) amount directly.
>>
>> Hervé Le Crosnier wrote:
>> >       Though I totally agree with Christian, i have
>> >       contribute on fundable, because I think nothing
>> >       will be up in a few days....
>>
>> Everybody who has a Paypal account or credit card can pay through
>> Fundable,
>> and everybody who has a credit card can pay through Paypal, so I don't see
>> what is the advantage of Fundable in this case.
>>
>> If some people prefer Fundable over Paypal for whatever reasons, we could
>> first make a public call for Paypal donations and then start a new
>> Fundable
>> collection for the rest. If we get 120$ through Paypal and 120$ through
>> Fundable, we have already reduced the fee by half.
>>
>> As I understand it, Fundable collections that don't close successfully
>> don't
>> cost anything, so we could just tear down the current one and open up a
>> new,
>> smaller one, without any problems.
>>
>> Best regards
>>        Christian
>>
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