[p2p-research] The Change Economy

Samuel Rose samuel.rose at gmail.com
Tue Apr 28 18:28:05 CEST 2009


One of the things about the network economy is that it's total value is
irrelevant to participants, who realize that the system they participate in
is constantly changing, and that there is no way to get an accurate picture.


The perspective of the size of the economy is mostly important when making
arguments for people who see everything as resources to be exploited, and
capitalized upon, instead of cultivation.

The real answer is that the value of *network economies* is potentially only
limited by the abilties, agility, and symbiotic efficiency of the people and
entities that make up the network. Their is a potential to sustainably scale
up and down, in scales of complexity. Now, we mostly operate within one
scale of complexity. (see http://www.isss.org/hierarchy.htm Hierachy
Theory)  But, the liberated and exploratory nature of networked economies
also means that we can potentially operate on all scales, which are
ultimately theoretically infinite. How do you measure the value of that?
Most economists will scoff at that notion. Yet, in our lifetimes, I think
the above realization will end up being a human evolutionary milestone.

And, I do believe that you have benevolent motivations, so no worries from
here on that! :-)



On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 10:35 PM, marc fawzi <marc.fawzi at gmail.com> wrote:

> AHITU is a great book.
>
> I'm asking because it seems for the first time "change" (and more
> specifically, and as you say, 'network enabled change') is maturing into a
> full fledged economy and I'm personally interested in figuring out the size
> of the change economy.... no business motivation, just my own curiosity.
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 7:11 PM, Samuel Rose <samuel.rose at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Marc,
>>
>> There are actually some rather old models on this.
>>
>> If you start with Stuart Kauffman
>> http://www.citeulike.org/user/VRadenovic/article/158503 At Home in the
>> Universe, you'll get some background on the network and system dynamics
>> related to this type of change. On a systems scale, the lower cost of
>> creating and using "open source" coupled with the fact that these projects
>> are often coupled to networks, tends to increase wealth generation, and the
>> divergent filling of niches possible with cores that are optimized for
>> flexible customization and re-use, tends to open up more niches to be
>> filled.
>>
>> I don't know about the numbers in dollars. We (our network) could fill a
>> role in taking the lead on research like this. There may be some useful info
>> at http://www.longtail.com/the_long_tail/
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 8:37 PM, marc fawzi <marc.fawzi at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I'm wondering if anyone out there has a good view of all the economic
>>> activity that is related to "change"
>>>
>>> For example, the number of companies that are open sourcing their
>>> proprietary software or processes, and what that is creating in terms of
>>> economic activity.
>>>
>>> Another example, the number of universities that are open sourcing their
>>> courses (like MIT, Stanford) and those implementing 'holistic education',
>>> what that is creating in terms of economic activity.
>>>
>>> I wonder if someone has the time to give us a good description of the
>>> change economy and it's size (e.g. total spending on change in dollars.)
>>>
>>>
>>> --
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>
>
>
> --
>
> Marc Fawzi
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>



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