[p2p-research] THIRD WORLD UNIVERSITIES FORUM
Samuel Rose
samuel.rose at gmail.com
Tue Apr 28 17:50:31 CEST 2009
While Michel Bauwens is beyond the shadow of a doubt one of the wisest
councils that I know on matters such as these.... :-)
Things are shifting so much, that I say, take a chance, as many established
outfits are struggling to do something new. I have been surprised numerous
times over the past 2 years.
On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 2:49 AM, Michel Bauwens <michelsub2004 at gmail.com>wrote:
> Hi Andreas,
>
> I'm also not sure what kind of cooperation you are thinking of. Such
> establsihed outfits are rarely interested in going on board with smaller
> outfits, unless you would have relations with their leadership?
>
> The P2PRG might be interested in creating a edu subgroup focused on p2p
> learning? (with people such as tere)
>
> Ryan: though I share your approach, I don't think we can control social
> processes, and so far it does seem history has not evolved as softly and
> 'linearly' as we would wish ..
>
> Here's an interesting view of change dynamics related to Obama, from
> http://www.tnr.com/story_print.html?id=f889d9db-8e99-4eef-a138-5dfec44c6843
>
> I find this summary of radical reform, partial reaction, and renewed reform
> on a higher level of attainment, to be quite compelling,
>
> excerpt:
>
> "
>
> Americans have been notoriously loath to undertake reforms that increase
> the role of government. That goes back partly to our Lockean liberal
> heritage of minimal government that marks us off from Europe with its
> absolutist past. The only times that Americans have permitted major changes
> in government's role have been during economic crises, social upheavals, and
> war--that is to say, during the Civil War, the Progressive Era and World War
> I, the New Deal and World War II, and the Sixties (circa 1961-1974). If you
> look at these periods, and at the intervals between them, you find certain
> patterns that may help explain what is going on today.
>
> *Reform and reaction*: Periods of major reform have invariably been
> followed by periods of reaction: the Civil War by the era of Robber Barons
> and Social Darwinism; the Progressive Era and World War I by the Twenties of
> Calvin Coolidge and Andrew Mellon; the New Deal and World War II by the
> Robert Taft Congresses and the Eisenhower presidency; and the Sixties by
> Ronald Reagan, Newt Gingrich, and George W. Bush.
>
> *The limits of reaction*: In these periods of reaction, attempts were
> made to undo and reverse prior reforms, but the efforts always fell short,
> and the reforms were preserved, if in weakened form. The Robert Taft
> Congresses failed to eliminate collective bargaining; Eisenhower, to the
> distress of conservative GOPers, kept social security in place; Reagan,
> Gingrich, and G. W. Bush tried, but failed, to eliminate the regulatory
> reforms of the Sixties. In addition, during these periods of reaction, the
> government's share in the gross domestic product never fell below the
> plateau established, except during the world wars, by the prior reform era.
>
> *Reform builds on reform*: Each of the reform eras picked up on the
> unfinished agenda of the prior era, and in some respects*, *went beyond it
> and into uncharted waters. The New Deal nationalized the state reforms of
> the Progressive Era (such as unemployment compensation), but also radically
> expanded the sheer quantitative role of government in the economy. The
> Sixties expanded social security and added Medicare and Medicaid, but it
> also radically widened the definition of what government could do to include
> things like worker safety and environmental protection (which is different
> from Progressive Era conservation)"
>
> On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 5:28 AM, Ryan Lanham <rlanham1963 at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> What should be nurtured? Let's say the normative framework of
>> universities is relatively set. That means change will have to be organic,
>> social and part of long historical evolution of the model, if it is to come
>> from inside. So, if the way to achieve a transformation in such an ecology
>> is through nurturing new values as hybrid contributions, the question that
>> should be asked is, what shold be nurtured?
>>
>> That is, there will not be a rupture, revolution (a la the Reformation)
>> and then an inevitable counter-revolution. The NYTimes article today
>> invoked Luther's 95 theses. Maybe that means there will now be Jesuits and
>> an Inquisition. That's not the way. We need a velvet revolution...a
>> grafting of a new form of apple tree onto the old stock and vine.
>>
>> P2P could be a cogent set of ideas worth investigating in comparison to
>> current university ideals. Maybe a worthwhile approach would be to discuss
>> what sorts of hybrids between p2p and current academic approaches might be
>> worth fertilizing.
>>
>> I appreciate the feeling that iconoclasm will not be well received in such
>> environments.
>>
>> Ryan
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 4:15 PM, Wittel, Andreas <
>> andreas.wittel at ntu.ac.uk> wrote:
>>
>>> sorry, forgot to reply to your last line:
>>>
>>> other than that, it could be interesting, would be nice to know what kind
>>> fo collaboration you are thinking of
>>>
>>> I don't have any clear ideas, lets see where the conversation will take
>>> us. There is only one thing where my mind is already set. I'm not interested
>>> in a condemning critique of the current situation, as this has been raised
>>> often enough and we could only be repetitive.
>>> I am inspired by the George Siemens blog
>>> http://www.elearnspace.org/blog/2009/04/25/rough-week-for-higher-education/<
>>> https://outlook.ntu.ac.uk/exchweb/bin/redir.asp?URL=http://www.elearnspace.org/blog/2009/04/25/rough-week-for-higher-education/
>>> >
>>> that Ryan send a few day ago, particularly by the last sentence:
>>> "We know what we don't want universities to be. We don't yet have thought
>>> leadership on what they should become."
>>> That is what I'd like to think about.
>>> A.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ________________________________
>>>
>>> From: paola.dimaio at gmail.com [mailto:paola.dimaio at gmail.com]
>>> Sent: Mon 27/04/2009 21:55
>>> To: Wittel, Andreas
>>> Cc: Peer-To-Peer Research List
>>> Subject: Re: [p2p-research] THIRD WORLD UNIVERSITIES FORUM
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks Andreas
>>> I worked that out when i saw the site, it says 3rd WUF
>>> I would have been surprised
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 9:48 PM, Wittel, Andreas <
>>> andreas.wittel at ntu.ac.uk> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi Paola, this is a misunderstanding. It is not about the Third
>>> World, it is the 3rd World Universities Forum (the first was in 2008, the
>>> 2nd is this year...)
>>> Andreas
>>>
>>> ________________________________
>>>
>>> From: paola.dimaio at gmail.com [mailto:paola.dimaio at gmail.com]
>>> Sent: Mon 27/04/2009 21:27
>>> To: Wittel, Andreas
>>> Cc: Peer-To-Peer Research List
>>> Subject: Re: [p2p-research] THIRD WORLD UNIVERSITIES FORUM
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Dear Andreas
>>> Thanks for sharing
>>> a few of us on this list already work in universities, and work
>>> with innovation
>>> I think the term 'third world' has been replaced with 'developing
>>> countries; which is preferred term, in fact that is out of date, and we use
>>> emerging economies instead, or some other euphemism
>>>
>>> the next question is why would a developing country forum would be
>>> held in switzerland? (as much as I love the country)
>>> would it not make sense to have it in a developing country
>>> (or does it coincide with the economic forum?)
>>>
>>> other than that, it could be interesting, would be nice to know
>>> what kind fo collaboration you are thinking of
>>>
>>> cheers
>>>
>>> PDM
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 9:18 PM, Wittel, Andreas <
>>> andreas.wittel at ntu.ac.uk> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> This could be an opportunity to develop a vision for the
>>> future of universities, something which could be considered to be a position
>>> associated with the p2p foundation. Is there some interest for
>>> collaboration?
>>>
>>> Andreas
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> THIRD WORLD UNIVERSITIES FORUM
>>> Davos, Switzerland
>>> 9-11 January 2010
>>>
>>> http://UniversitiesForum.com <
>>> http://universitiesforum.com/> <http://universitiesforum.com/> <
>>> https://outlook.ntu.ac.uk/exchweb/bin/redir.asp?URL=http://UniversitiesForum.com
>>> >
>>>
>>>
>>> Inspired partly by the success of World Economic Forum in
>>> hosting global conversations about emerging issues of economic policy, the
>>> World Universities Forum (WUF) was created in 2008 in the belief that
>>> academe must better engage today's most crucial questions, and that higher
>>> education itself must be included as part of the wider discussion of global
>>> change. The Forum encourages the participation of university executives,
>>> administrators, scholars and research students, as well as journalists,
>>> policy makers, business and political leaders, and others who understand
>>> that the importance of the university extends well beyond campus. While WUF
>>> encourages conversations about all aspects of higher education policy and
>>> practice, the keynotes for the third WUF have been invited to consider
>>> issues of the current global economic crisis and its implications for
>>> universities.
>>>
>>> Keynote speakers include:
>>> * Professor Eva Egron-Polak (International Association of
>>> Universities, France)
>>> * Professor Jonathan Jansen (Rector, University of the Free
>>> State, South Africa)
>>> * Professor Simon Marginson (University of Melbourne,
>>> Australia)
>>> * Professor Nigel Thrift (Vice Chancellor, University of
>>> Warwick, UK)
>>> * Professor Pandhyala B.G. Tilak (National University of
>>> Educational Planning & Administration, India)
>>>
>>> In addition, the Forum will also include numerous paper,
>>> workshop and colloquium presentations. We would particularly like to invite
>>> you to respond to the Forum Call-for-Papers. Presenters may choose to submit
>>> written papers for publication in the refereed Journal of the World
>>> Universities Forum. If you are unable to attend the Forum in person, virtual
>>> registrations are also available which allow you to submit a paper for
>>> review and possible publication in the Journal, and provide access to the
>>> online edition of the Journal.
>>>
>>> Whether you are a virtual or in-person presenter at this
>>> Conference, we also encourage you to present on the Conference YouTube
>>> Channel. Please select the Online Sessions link on the Conference website
>>> for further details.
>>>
>>>
>>> The deadline for the next round in the call for papers (a
>>> title and short abstract) is 14 May 2009. Future deadlines will be
>>> announced on the Forum website after this date. Proposals are reviewed
>>> within two weeks of submission. Full details of the Forum, including an
>>> online proposal submission form, may be found at the Forum website -
>>> http://UniversitiesForum.com <http://universitiesforum.com/> <
>>> http://universitiesforum.com/> <
>>> https://outlook.ntu.ac.uk/exchweb/bin/redir.asp?URL=http://UniversitiesForum.com>
>>> .
>>>
>>>
>>> We look forward to receiving your proposal and hope you
>>> will be able to join us in Davos in January 2010.
>>>
>>> Yours Sincerely,
>>>
>>> Professor Fazal Rizvi
>>> Department of Educational Policy Studies University of
>>> Illinois Urbana, Illinois, USA
>>> For the International Advisory Board of the World
>>> Universities Forum and the Journal of the World Universities Forum
>>>
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