[p2p-research] Google as Open Kindle Maker?

[marc fawzi]

My definition of p2p is direct client to client (pc to pc) not going through
a centralized grid/cloud or whatever

So when I say this is not p2p I mean it in the software architecture
context...

Sorry for confusion

On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 2:25 AM, Michel Bauwens <michelsub2004 at gmail.com>wrote:

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> On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 5:33 PM, marc fawzi <marc.fawzi at gmail.com> wrote:
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>> wasn't familiar with them by name but I had heard of such a group
>>
>> they're pro autonomy but they're not pro p2p (as in p2p cloud) ..
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>
> I don't think I agree with that, free network services is a open version of
> the cloud, and they're critical of non-open corporate clouds
>
>
>> maybe just picking the most viable fight.. until IPv6 becomes mainstream,
>> which is give rise to p2p cloud services... and that's honestly what's
>> exciting about technology: it makes us, we don't make it.
>>
>> will definitely let you know if i write something substantial about it..
>> but there would have to be something new to write about, not just repeating
>> what is being said re: open clouds... a "cloud" to me is a p2p network..
>> otherwise, it's a friggin DATA CENTER.. they (Google, MS, IBM, et al)
>> hijacked the term cloud (or at least the meaning I had associated with it
>> the last 15 years)
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>> On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 3:17 AM, Michel Bauwens <michelsub2004 at gmail.com>wrote:
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>>> if you ever write something structured about this, let me know,
>>>
>>> are you familiar with autonomo.us and the franklin street statement?
>>>
>>> they're fighting the good fight,
>>>
>>> Michel
>>>
>>> On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 2:52 PM, marc fawzi <marc.fawzi at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Those "free" services are costing us our autonomy from one of the
>>>> world's biggest capitalists... and in the case of network-centric computing
>>>> (aka cloud services) it's costing us in resilience and sustainable abundance
>>>> (due to single point of failure and concentration of power, respectively)
>>>>
>>>> Most people don't think deeply enough about things. So to say that
>>>> Google's "free" services aren't costing us anything is incorrect, based on
>>>> what it is costing us in autonomy, resilience and sustainable abundance.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 5:32 PM, Ryan Lanham <rlanham1963 at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> http://jwikert.typepad.com/the_average_joe/2009/04/amazon-vs-google.html
>>>>>
>>>>> Ryan Lanham
>>>>>
>>>>>
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