[p2p-research] Google as Open Kindle Maker?

[Michel Bauwens]

On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 5:33 PM, marc fawzi <marc.fawzi at gmail.com> wrote:

> wasn't familiar with them by name but I had heard of such a group
>
> they're pro autonomy but they're not pro p2p (as in p2p cloud) ..


I don't think I agree with that, free network services is a open version of
the cloud, and they're critical of non-open corporate clouds


> maybe just picking the most viable fight.. until IPv6 becomes mainstream,
> which is give rise to p2p cloud services... and that's honestly what's
> exciting about technology: it makes us, we don't make it.
>
> will definitely let you know if i write something substantial about it..
> but there would have to be something new to write about, not just repeating
> what is being said re: open clouds... a "cloud" to me is a p2p network..
> otherwise, it's a friggin DATA CENTER.. they (Google, MS, IBM, et al)
> hijacked the term cloud (or at least the meaning I had associated with it
> the last 15 years)
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 3:17 AM, Michel Bauwens <michelsub2004 at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> if you ever write something structured about this, let me know,
>>
>> are you familiar with autonomo.us and the franklin street statement?
>>
>> they're fighting the good fight,
>>
>> Michel
>>
>> On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 2:52 PM, marc fawzi <marc.fawzi at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Those "free" services are costing us our autonomy from one of the world's
>>> biggest capitalists... and in the case of network-centric computing (aka
>>> cloud services) it's costing us in resilience and sustainable abundance (due
>>> to single point of failure and concentration of power, respectively)
>>>
>>> Most people don't think deeply enough about things. So to say that
>>> Google's "free" services aren't costing us anything is incorrect, based on
>>> what it is costing us in autonomy, resilience and sustainable abundance.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 5:32 PM, Ryan Lanham <rlanham1963 at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>
>>>> http://jwikert.typepad.com/the_average_joe/2009/04/amazon-vs-google.html
>>>>
>>>> Ryan Lanham
>>>>
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