[p2p-research] THIRD WORLD UNIVERSITIES FORUM
Michel Bauwens
michelsub2004 at gmail.com
Tue Apr 28 08:49:02 CEST 2009
Hi Andreas,
I'm also not sure what kind of cooperation you are thinking of. Such
establsihed outfits are rarely interested in going on board with smaller
outfits, unless you would have relations with their leadership?
The P2PRG might be interested in creating a edu subgroup focused on p2p
learning? (with people such as tere)
Ryan: though I share your approach, I don't think we can control social
processes, and so far it does seem history has not evolved as softly and
'linearly' as we would wish ..
Here's an interesting view of change dynamics related to Obama, from
http://www.tnr.com/story_print.html?id=f889d9db-8e99-4eef-a138-5dfec44c6843
I find this summary of radical reform, partial reaction, and renewed reform
on a higher level of attainment, to be quite compelling,
excerpt:
"
Americans have been notoriously loath to undertake reforms that increase the
role of government. That goes back partly to our Lockean liberal heritage of
minimal government that marks us off from Europe with its absolutist past.
The only times that Americans have permitted major changes in government's
role have been during economic crises, social upheavals, and war--that is to
say, during the Civil War, the Progressive Era and World War I, the New Deal
and World War II, and the Sixties (circa 1961-1974). If you look at these
periods, and at the intervals between them, you find certain patterns that
may help explain what is going on today.
*Reform and reaction*: Periods of major reform have invariably been
followed by periods of reaction: the Civil War by the era of Robber Barons
and Social Darwinism; the Progressive Era and World War I by the Twenties of
Calvin Coolidge and Andrew Mellon; the New Deal and World War II by the
Robert Taft Congresses and the Eisenhower presidency; and the Sixties by
Ronald Reagan, Newt Gingrich, and George W. Bush.
*The limits of reaction*: In these periods of reaction, attempts were made
to undo and reverse prior reforms, but the efforts always fell short, and
the reforms were preserved, if in weakened form. The Robert Taft Congresses
failed to eliminate collective bargaining; Eisenhower, to the distress of
conservative GOPers, kept social security in place; Reagan, Gingrich, and G.
W. Bush tried, but failed, to eliminate the regulatory reforms of the
Sixties. In addition, during these periods of reaction, the government's
share in the gross domestic product never fell below the plateau
established, except during the world wars, by the prior reform era.
*Reform builds on reform*: Each of the reform eras picked up on the
unfinished agenda of the prior era, and in some respects*, *went beyond it
and into uncharted waters. The New Deal nationalized the state reforms of
the Progressive Era (such as unemployment compensation), but also radically
expanded the sheer quantitative role of government in the economy. The
Sixties expanded social security and added Medicare and Medicaid, but it
also radically widened the definition of what government could do to include
things like worker safety and environmental protection (which is different
from Progressive Era conservation)"
On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 5:28 AM, Ryan Lanham <rlanham1963 at gmail.com> wrote:
> What should be nurtured? Let's say the normative framework of universities
> is relatively set. That means change will have to be organic, social and
> part of long historical evolution of the model, if it is to come from
> inside. So, if the way to achieve a transformation in such an ecology is
> through nurturing new values as hybrid contributions, the question that
> should be asked is, what shold be nurtured?
>
> That is, there will not be a rupture, revolution (a la the Reformation) and
> then an inevitable counter-revolution. The NYTimes article today invoked
> Luther's 95 theses. Maybe that means there will now be Jesuits and an
> Inquisition. That's not the way. We need a velvet revolution...a grafting
> of a new form of apple tree onto the old stock and vine.
>
> P2P could be a cogent set of ideas worth investigating in comparison to
> current university ideals. Maybe a worthwhile approach would be to discuss
> what sorts of hybrids between p2p and current academic approaches might be
> worth fertilizing.
>
> I appreciate the feeling that iconoclasm will not be well received in such
> environments.
>
> Ryan
>
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 4:15 PM, Wittel, Andreas <andreas.wittel at ntu.ac.uk
> > wrote:
>
>> sorry, forgot to reply to your last line:
>>
>> other than that, it could be interesting, would be nice to know what kind
>> fo collaboration you are thinking of
>>
>> I don't have any clear ideas, lets see where the conversation will take
>> us. There is only one thing where my mind is already set. I'm not interested
>> in a condemning critique of the current situation, as this has been raised
>> often enough and we could only be repetitive.
>> I am inspired by the George Siemens blog
>> http://www.elearnspace.org/blog/2009/04/25/rough-week-for-higher-education/<
>> https://outlook.ntu.ac.uk/exchweb/bin/redir.asp?URL=http://www.elearnspace.org/blog/2009/04/25/rough-week-for-higher-education/
>> >
>> that Ryan send a few day ago, particularly by the last sentence:
>> "We know what we don't want universities to be. We don't yet have thought
>> leadership on what they should become."
>> That is what I'd like to think about.
>> A.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ________________________________
>>
>> From: paola.dimaio at gmail.com [mailto:paola.dimaio at gmail.com]
>> Sent: Mon 27/04/2009 21:55
>> To: Wittel, Andreas
>> Cc: Peer-To-Peer Research List
>> Subject: Re: [p2p-research] THIRD WORLD UNIVERSITIES FORUM
>>
>>
>> Thanks Andreas
>> I worked that out when i saw the site, it says 3rd WUF
>> I would have been surprised
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 9:48 PM, Wittel, Andreas <
>> andreas.wittel at ntu.ac.uk> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Hi Paola, this is a misunderstanding. It is not about the Third
>> World, it is the 3rd World Universities Forum (the first was in 2008, the
>> 2nd is this year...)
>> Andreas
>>
>> ________________________________
>>
>> From: paola.dimaio at gmail.com [mailto:paola.dimaio at gmail.com]
>> Sent: Mon 27/04/2009 21:27
>> To: Wittel, Andreas
>> Cc: Peer-To-Peer Research List
>> Subject: Re: [p2p-research] THIRD WORLD UNIVERSITIES FORUM
>>
>>
>>
>> Dear Andreas
>> Thanks for sharing
>> a few of us on this list already work in universities, and work
>> with innovation
>> I think the term 'third world' has been replaced with 'developing
>> countries; which is preferred term, in fact that is out of date, and we use
>> emerging economies instead, or some other euphemism
>>
>> the next question is why would a developing country forum would be
>> held in switzerland? (as much as I love the country)
>> would it not make sense to have it in a developing country
>> (or does it coincide with the economic forum?)
>>
>> other than that, it could be interesting, would be nice to know
>> what kind fo collaboration you are thinking of
>>
>> cheers
>>
>> PDM
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 9:18 PM, Wittel, Andreas <
>> andreas.wittel at ntu.ac.uk> wrote:
>>
>>
>> This could be an opportunity to develop a vision for the
>> future of universities, something which could be considered to be a position
>> associated with the p2p foundation. Is there some interest for
>> collaboration?
>>
>> Andreas
>>
>>
>>
>> THIRD WORLD UNIVERSITIES FORUM
>> Davos, Switzerland
>> 9-11 January 2010
>>
>> http://UniversitiesForum.com <
>> http://universitiesforum.com/> <http://universitiesforum.com/> <
>> https://outlook.ntu.ac.uk/exchweb/bin/redir.asp?URL=http://UniversitiesForum.com
>> >
>>
>>
>> Inspired partly by the success of World Economic Forum in
>> hosting global conversations about emerging issues of economic policy, the
>> World Universities Forum (WUF) was created in 2008 in the belief that
>> academe must better engage today's most crucial questions, and that higher
>> education itself must be included as part of the wider discussion of global
>> change. The Forum encourages the participation of university executives,
>> administrators, scholars and research students, as well as journalists,
>> policy makers, business and political leaders, and others who understand
>> that the importance of the university extends well beyond campus. While WUF
>> encourages conversations about all aspects of higher education policy and
>> practice, the keynotes for the third WUF have been invited to consider
>> issues of the current global economic crisis and its implications for
>> universities.
>>
>> Keynote speakers include:
>> * Professor Eva Egron-Polak (International Association of
>> Universities, France)
>> * Professor Jonathan Jansen (Rector, University of the Free
>> State, South Africa)
>> * Professor Simon Marginson (University of Melbourne,
>> Australia)
>> * Professor Nigel Thrift (Vice Chancellor, University of
>> Warwick, UK)
>> * Professor Pandhyala B.G. Tilak (National University of
>> Educational Planning & Administration, India)
>>
>> In addition, the Forum will also include numerous paper,
>> workshop and colloquium presentations. We would particularly like to invite
>> you to respond to the Forum Call-for-Papers. Presenters may choose to submit
>> written papers for publication in the refereed Journal of the World
>> Universities Forum. If you are unable to attend the Forum in person, virtual
>> registrations are also available which allow you to submit a paper for
>> review and possible publication in the Journal, and provide access to the
>> online edition of the Journal.
>>
>> Whether you are a virtual or in-person presenter at this
>> Conference, we also encourage you to present on the Conference YouTube
>> Channel. Please select the Online Sessions link on the Conference website
>> for further details.
>>
>>
>> The deadline for the next round in the call for papers (a
>> title and short abstract) is 14 May 2009. Future deadlines will be
>> announced on the Forum website after this date. Proposals are reviewed
>> within two weeks of submission. Full details of the Forum, including an
>> online proposal submission form, may be found at the Forum website -
>> http://UniversitiesForum.com <http://universitiesforum.com/> <
>> http://universitiesforum.com/> <
>> https://outlook.ntu.ac.uk/exchweb/bin/redir.asp?URL=http://UniversitiesForum.com>
>> .
>>
>>
>> We look forward to receiving your proposal and hope you will
>> be able to join us in Davos in January 2010.
>>
>> Yours Sincerely,
>>
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>> Department of Educational Policy Studies University of
>> Illinois Urbana, Illinois, USA
>> For the International Advisory Board of the World
>> Universities Forum and the Journal of the World Universities Forum
>>
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