[p2p-research] Resilience and scale invariance

[marc fawzi]

I apologize for giving you the perception that I'm playing with you.

But there is something about your assertions (and I suspect vice versa) that
is triggering.

I prefer if we could figure it out without further impinging on our
sensibility.

Maybe a live multi-user audio discussion (with ability to export as Podcast)
would be better than a mailing list where words and statements can be
interpreted subject to personal bias. There is something about the tonality
and texture of spoken words that gives the listener much more in-depth
insight into what the speaker is saying. Like seeing food vs tasting it. I
think the actual experience of listening is diminished when it's in text
form.

Marc

On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 7:47 PM, Stan Rhodes <stanleyrhodes at gmail.com>wrote:

> No one claimed what you're saying, and anyone in the field would think
> it was downright silly.  I certainly do.  No one's "blaming" mistakes
> on the brain, or absolving themselves of responsibility, any more than
> one blames gravity when they drop a laptop.
>
> If anyone else thought I was making a case for absolving ourselves of
> mistakes, I'd be surprised.  On the contrary, I study such things to
> try to prevent them in some way, or reduce the damage they cause.
>
> Anyway, you're confusing descriptive statements with normative ones,
> and making a strawman to boot, and those are just in the first few
> lines.  It's familiar, because you did the same thing in the first
> email of mine you ever replied to on this list.
>
> Lesson learned: shame on me.  Not going to play, Marc.
>
> -- Stan
>
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 11:56 PM, marc fawzi <marc.fawzi at gmail.com> wrote:
> > <<
> >>
> >> irrational mistakes do not have to be tied to emotion or
> >> "malfunctions" in any way.  Again, optical illusions provide a useful
> >> example of a perceptual system being tricked by working the way it is
> >> supposed to work, with emotion playing no role.
> >>
> >>>
> >
> > If you blame mistakes on the way our brain works that does not take
> > responsibility from the person committing the mistake to fix that mistake
> > and correct their behavior (i.e. correct what makes them make mistakes,
> e.g.
> > take some medication or correct the problem in their cognition)
> >
> > A cannibal's brain maybe wired to perceive people as food but that does
> not
> > make eating people OK.
> >
> > I had read "Why We Make Mistakes" and found it to be tactically
> insightful
> > but philosophically tacky.
> >
> > If my job was to follow a straight line and if my brain is wired to see
> the
> > line as being curved while it's in fact straight then I need to wear some
> > glasses that correct for the optical illusion or figure out a technique
> to
> > see the line without any distortion.
> >
> > Personal responsibility cannot be abandoned by simply saying that look at
> > optical illusions it's not our fault we were made that way.
> >
> > If you're in charge of some nuclear facility and your brain is wired to
> > trick you in a way that causes the reaction to melt down you should
> really
> > fix the way you process what your brain tells you, e.g. by establishing
> > tests or using some tool.
> >
> > So as far as people's relationship to money (and relationships exists
> around
> > money not just with money) even if people (we) are wired for certain
> > behavioral patterns if those patterns are causing problems we need to
> > abandon them.
> >
> > That is rationality.
> >
> > Emotion would be the fear one has of changing their behavior and the
> symptom
> > of fear of changing a damaging behavior, IMO, is to blame it on the way
> our
> > brains are wired. That is fear of change. That is emotion.
> >
> > Rationality would be to recognize the fear of change and actually proceed
> > with making the change/fix.
> >
> > Marc
> >
> >
> >
> >>
> >> -- Stan
> >>
> >> > On Sun, Apr 19, 2009 at 4:21 PM, marc fawzi <marc.fawzi at gmail.com>
> >> > wrote:
> >> >> I thought you were an economist :)
> >> >>
> >> >> Can you please elaborate further on the relationship people have to
> >> >> money,
> >> >> from a psychological point of view?
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> >
> > Marc Fawzi
> > Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/people/Marc-Fawzi/605919256
> > LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/marcfawzi
> >
>



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