[p2p-research] [ox-en] Marginalism - the religion

[marc fawzi]

meant: ... then human beings can focus on creativity and cooperation and
less on survival and competition

On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 2:58 PM, marc fawzi <marc.fawzi at gmail.com> wrote:

>
> You cannot marginalize friction in a given system. If you do, you will
> eventually come to a screeching halt.
>
> But what I'm saying is the holistic cost of digital goods and services,
> which I listed in five bullets, are not merely friction, they're more like
> gravity...
>
> It does not mean we cannot fly or move about. We just have to realize that
> we need a continuous supply of energy at a sufficient conversion rate to
> counter friction and/or gravity.
>
> There has been millions of otherwise good thinkers (including some
> brilliant software engineers I know and I would suspect some physicists) who
> have attempted a modern day version of perpetual motion design, and realized
> the laws of physics have not yet changed their mind.
>
> So marginalizing gravity is an even more dead ended way. Socializing (or
> distributing the cost of friction to all wheels in equal manner) does not
> marginalize cost. It simply distributes it evenly.
>
> I think that if the five costs I listed are socialized then human beings
> can focus on creativity and competition and less on survival and
> competition.
>
> Marc
>
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 2:39 PM, Diego Saravia <diego.saravia at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> but, what is the importance of marginal costs?
>>
>>
>> the central point is that we have already make a huge inversion in
>> network technology, and we are paying costs for having it.
>> but
>> it will cost almost the same if we use it or not
>> for copying information or knowledge
>>
>> so in the info society the marginal cost of info  duplication  is almost 0
>>
>> so copied info have not economical price (and value). copied info is a
>> free good (as in economy and as in free software)
>>
>> if you agree that marginal costs determine  prices (that is a big if,
>> off course), but seems to be true in capitalist societies.
>>
>> and if there are not artificial regulations like copyright
>>
>> in fact there are only one country in the world with  positive balance
>> in copyright (USA), England is neutral.
>>
>>
>> copyright is one of the principals mechanism of international
>> explotation in the present economy.
>> search alan story 10 thesis .....
>>
>>
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>>
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