[p2p-research] [p2pf] Re: [p2p energy economy] p2p - Systems Modeling - How to Talk about Anything p2p with Anyone

Tue Apr 21 14:58:30 CEST 2009

The idea is really simple...

If we think of what "power words" exist in our conscience, e.g. justice,
fairness, peer to peer, cooperation, etc then simply just give a contextual
definition of each (in the context of a personal or common p2p theory) then
it will be easy to explain in those plain and powerful words what P2P is ...

Patrick took it further with the mind map idea but at its root it's really
simple: any social paradigm can be explained in terms of its moral values,
and the moral values can be explained in terms of precise in-context
definitions of the 'power words' ...

I would personally go with the basic power words that are understood to
everyone, not any words that are specific to p2p, social theory or
economics.

On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 9:15 PM, Michel Bauwens <michelsub2004 at gmail.com>wrote:

> Hi Patrick,
>
> I think there is something promising in your brain dump, though I'm not
> sure what <g>,
>
> if other people find it useful, perhaps we can start such an exercise via
> some kind of mindmap or some such?
>
> if should be a mindmap which allows links behind the concepts, as we have
> material on most of the concepts already,
>
> Michel
>
> On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 10:58 AM, Patrick Anderson <AGNUcius at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 6:21 PM, marc fawzi <marc.fawzi at gmail.com<marc.fawzi%40gmail.com>>
>> wrote:
>> > To boil it down to pictures
>>
>> This reminds me of an idea to make a term->icon mappings.
>>
>> What do the Power Words look like?
>>
>> I'm hoping if we can discover some good representations, that they can
>> be used in a sort of relational flow-chart state machine thingamajig.
>>
>> > Power Words:
>> >
>> > 1. Justice
>> >
>> > 2. Peace
>> >
>> > 3. Peer to Peer (no inequities, no barriers, but not 'no differences'..
>> > we're not a borg)
>> >
>> > 4. Cooperation (see Snowdrift game vs Prisoner's Dilemma thread... I'd
>> like
>> > to write something more holistic about cooperation in networks vs
>> > hierarchies and give a powerful case for the P2P model which is based on
>> the
>> > network paradigm... and talk about competition and preferential access
>> in
>> > the context of the moral paradigm)
>> >
>> > 5. Open (both the production organization and the code/content)
>> >
>> > A lot of our discussion here revolves around defining the above *words*
>> ...
>> > even if we don't do that explicitly. Everything ever posted to this list
>> is
>> > about providing one's definition for one or more of the above words (and
>> any
>> > other such power words that i may have missed)
>>
>> Here is my *-association brain-dump:
>>
>> Free, Freedom, Libre, Liberty
>>
>> Commons, Collective, Cooperate
>>
>> Social, Trust, Organize, Group
>>
>> Fund, Invest, Capital, Finance, Loan, Debt, Bank, Money, DeathGrip
>> (MortGage)
>>
>> Means, Source, Input
>>
>> Product, Object, Output
>>
>> Service, Network, Transport
>>
>> Tax, Cost, Price
>>
>> Revenue, Dividends, Earnings, Profit
>>
>> Scarcity, Abundance
>>
>> Material, Immaterial
>>
>> Copyright, Patents, Copyleft
>>
>> Copy, Duplicate, Instantiate
>>
>> Royalty, Propriety, Proprietary
>>
>> Ownership, Property, Private, Public, Personal
>>
>> Money, Currency, Cache, Bank, Store, Credit, Debt
>>
>> Govern, Manage, Admin, root
>>
>> Land, Capital, Labor
>>
>> Rent, Profit, Wage
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