[p2p-research] [p2pf] Launch of P2P Research Group

Mon Apr 20 05:07:58 CEST 2009

Hi Marc,

I think we have two separate two things:

1) a practical and political agenda, around areas of common agreements, but
with people coming from various frameworks

2) I think that a P2P Theory should be left as a pluralist matter, i.e. I'm
promoting/talking about my own understandings, in dialogue with all the
others participating, but with each of us having different, sometimes
radically so, theoretical points of view.

For example, I'm very happy to dialogue and work with Kevin, though we
differ on the matter of the state etc...

The theory behind the action should probably be limited to a limited number
of principles, again a little bit like a constitution, that we all agree on
..

What we/you could do is set up a separate p2pfoundation.org, to focus on the
political/action-oriented work.

I really want to keep p2p-f open as a platform for as much open dialogue and
documentation as possible,

Michel

On Sat, Apr 18, 2009 at 4:42 PM, marc fawzi <marc.fawzi at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Michel,
>
> It's definitely good to separate the specific P2P research group agenda
> with Hull (despite the affiliation with P2Pf, if given) and the "Collective
> Theory and Action Agenda" for P2Pf.
>
> I think that individual voices represented in your P2P Theory (and in the
> stuff you pasted below, which can be see as being in your voice since you're
> promoting it) and in the voices of all contributors e.g. Franz, Chris, Sam,
> Patrick, Nathan, Eric, et al (please forgive me as I have not looked at the
> list of individual contributors and I'm just listing those names I have come
> across here in the last 6 months) together can be combined (in terms of
> their stated goals) with the goals of any implementation projects (if any
> are cataloged and followed by P2Pf) to produce a collective presentation of
> P2P Theory and Action Agenda.
>
> So how about going after a Collective Theory and Action Agenda for P2P
> Foundation and then narrowing that down to an Official P2P Foundation Theory
> and Action Agenda?
>
> Marc
>
>
>
> On Sat, Apr 18, 2009 at 1:55 AM, Michel Bauwens <michelsub2004 at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Marc,
>>
>> you are talking about a p2p political manifesto right? (not the one for
>> the research group)
>>
>> I'd like to offer two list of theses for your inspiration:
>>
>> Appendix 1: *: Summary theses on the emergence of the peer to peer
>> civilization and political economy*
>>
>> 1. Our current world system is marked by a profoundly counterproductive
>> logic of social organization:
>>
>> a) it is based on a false concept of abundance in the limited material
>> world; it has created a system based on infinite growth, within the confines
>> of finite resources
>>
>> b) it is based on a false concept of scarcity in the infinite immaterial
>> world; instead of allowing continuous experimental social innovation, it
>> purposely erects legal and technical barriers to disallow free cooperation
>> through copyright, patents, etc…
>>
>> 2. Therefore, the number one priority for a sustainable civilization is
>> overturning these principles into their opposite:
>>
>> a) we need to base our physical economy on a recognition of the finitude
>> of natural resources, and achieve a sustainable steady-state economy
>>
>> b) we need to facilitate free and creative cooperation and lower the
>> barriers to such exchange by reforming the copyright and other restrictive
>> regimes
>>
>> 3. Hierarchy, markets, and even democracy are means to allocate scarce
>> resources through authority, pricing, and negotiation; they are not
>> necessary in the realm of the creation and free exchange of immaterial
>> value, which will be marked by bottom-up forms of peer governance
>>
>> 4. Markets, as means to to manage scarce physical resources, are but one
>> of the means to achieve such allocation, and need to be divorced from the
>> idea of capitalism, which is a system of infinite growth.
>>
>> 5. The creation of immaterial value, which again needs to become dominant
>> in a post-material world which recognized the finiteness of the material
>> world, will be characterized by the further emergence of non-reciprocal peer
>> production.
>>
>> 6. Peer production is a more productive system for producing immaterial
>> value than the for-profit mode, and in cases of the asymmetric competition
>> between for-profit companies and for-benefit institutions and communities,
>> the latter will tend to emerge
>>
>> 7. Peer production produces more social happiness, because 1) it is based
>> on the highest from of individual motivation, nl. intrinsic positive
>> motivation; 2) it is based on the highest form of collective cooperation,
>> nl. synergestic cooperation characterized by four wins (both the
>> participants in the exchange , the community, and the universal system)
>>
>> 8. Peer governance, the bottom-up mode of participative decision-making
>> (only those who participate get to decide) which emerges in peer projects is
>> politically more productive than representative democracy, and will tend to
>> emerge in immaterial production. However, it can only replace representative
>> modes in the realm of non-scarcity, and will be a complementary mode in the
>> political realm. What we need are political structures that create a
>> convergence between individual and collective interests.
>>
>> 9. Peer property, the legal and institutional means for the social
>> reproduction of peer projects, are inherently more distributive than both
>> public property and private exclusionary property; it will tend to become
>> the dominant form in the world of immaterial production (which includes all
>> design of physical products).
>>
>> 10. Peer to peer as the relational dynamic of free agents in distributed
>> networks will likely become the dominant mode for the production of
>> immaterial value; however, in the realm of scarcity, the peer to peer logic
>> will tend to reinforce peer-informed market modes, such as fair trade; and
>> in the realm of the scarcity based politics of group negotiation, will lead
>> to reinforce the peer-informed state forms such as multistakeholdership
>> forms of governance.
>>
>> 11. The role of the state must evolve from the protector of dominant
>> interests and arbiter between public regulation and privatized corporate
>> modes (an eternal and improductive binary choice), towards being the arbiter
>> between a triarchy of public regulation, private markets, and the direct
>> social production of value. In the latter capacity, it must evolve from the
>> welfare state model, to the partner state model, as involved in enabling and
>> empowering the direct social creation of value.
>>
>> 12. The world of physical production needs to be characterized by:
>>
>> a) sustainable forms of peer-informed market exchange (fair trade, etc..);
>>
>>
>> b) reinvigorated forms of reciprocity and the gift economy;
>>
>> c) a world based on social innovation and open designs, available for
>> physical production anywhere in the world.
>>
>> 13. The best guarantor of the spread of the peer to peer logic to the
>> world of physical production, is the distribution of everything, i.e. of the
>> means of production in the hands of individuals and communities, so that
>> they can engage in social cooperation. While the immaterial world will be
>> characterized by a peer to peer logic on non-reciprocal generalized
>> exchange, the peer informed world of material exchange will be characterized
>> by evolving forms of reciprocity and neutral exchange.
>>
>> 14. We need to move from empty and ineffective anti-capitalist rhetoric,
>> to constructive post-capitalist construction. Peer to peer theory, as the
>> attempt to create a theory to understand peer production, governance and
>> property, and the attendant paradigms and value systems of the open/free,
>> participatory, and commons oriented social movements, is in a unique
>> position to marry the priority values of the right, individual freedom, and
>> the priority values of the left, equality. In the peer to peer logic, one is
>> the condition of the other, and cooperative individualism marries
>> equipotentiality and freedom in a context of non-coercion.
>>
>> 15. We need to become politically sensitive to invisible architectures of
>> power. In distributed systems, where there is no overt hierarchy, power is a
>> function of design. One such system, perhaps the most important of all, is
>> the monetary system, whose interest-bearing design requires the market to be
>> linked to a system of infinite growth, and this link needs to be broken. A
>> global reform of the monetary system, or the spread of new means of direct
>> social production of money, are necessary conditions for such a break.
>>
>> 16. This is the truth of the peer to peer logical of social relationships:
>> 1) together we have everything; 2) together we know everything. Therefore,
>> the conditions for dignified material and spiritual living are in our hands,
>> bound with our capacity to relate and form community. The emancipatory peer
>> to peer theory does not offer new solutions for global problems, but most of
>> all new means to tackle them, by relying on the collective intelligence of
>> humankind. We are witnessing the rapid emergence of peer to peer toolboxes
>> for the virtual world, and facilitation techniques of the physical world of
>> face to face encounters, both are needed to assist in the necessary change
>> of consciousness that needs to be midwifed. It is up to us to use them.
>>
>> 17. At present, the world of corporate production is benefiting from the
>> positive externalities of widespread social innovation (innovation as an
>> emerging property of the network itself, not as an internal characteristic
>> of any entity), but there is no return mecachism, leading to the problem of
>> precarity. Now that the productivity of the social is beyond doubt, we need
>> solutions that allow the state and for-profit corporation to create return
>> mechanisms, such as forms of income that are no longer directly related to
>> the private production of wealth, but reward the social production of
>> wealth.
>>
>>
>> Appendix 3: A legal and regulatory framework for the participative society
>>
>>
>> 1) In the immaterial sphere
>>
>> a)      diminish artificial scarcities in the informational field so that
>> immense social value can be created, and immaterial conviviality can replace
>> the deadly logic of material accumulation.
>>
>> b)      Public authorities adapt Partner State policies that enable and
>> empower the direct creation of social value
>>
>>
>>
>> 2)  In the sphere of materiality
>>
>> a) introduce true costing in the material field so that the market no
>> longer creates negative exernalities in the natural environment; dissociate
>> the marketplace from the system of infinite material growth
>>
>>
>> 3) create more distributed access to the means of production (peer-based
>> financing, distributed energy production, etc…) so that the peer to peer
>> dynamic can be introduced in the sphere of material production as well.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Apr 18, 2009 at 3:50 PM, marc fawzi <marc.fawzi at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> If the relationship is recognized formally then that's beneficial to both
>>> P2Pf and Hull University, IMHO.
>>>
>>> It will allow the loose bunch of us (all contributors) whose only
>>> relationship to P2Pf is the trust we have in you personally to extend that
>>> trust in working with the P2P Research Group. It's a win win.
>>>
>>> And then we can leverage that (or "build on it") to pursue the idea of an
>>> advisory board for P2Pf.
>>>
>>> Having said that, I don't see a way around peer producing The P2P Agenda
>>> (or Manifesto)
>>>
>>> I'll be happy to start that process using the agile methodology, but I am
>>> more bandwidth starved now compared to 5 months ago so the writing will
>>> start awkwardly, trickle at first but I'm sure it will eventually mature.
>>>
>>> Marc
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Apr 18, 2009 at 1:18 AM, Michel Bauwens <michelsub2004 at gmail.com
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Apr 18, 2009 at 3:00 PM, marc fawzi <marc.fawzi at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Michel,
>>>>>
>>>>> My questions to you:
>>>>>
>>>>> 1. Is the P2P Research Group affiliated with P2P Foundation such that
>>>>> we can say that P2P Foundation has a collaboration initiative with a
>>>>> recognized [academic] institution?  Else, what new progress are we
>>>>> leveraging? and if nothing then why wasn't this pursued earlier? Is it just
>>>>> that no one had the time to write a manifesto or constitution? (which leads
>>>>> to #2)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hi Marc, this initiative was discussed in Nottingham in 2007, at our 2nd
>>>> informal p2p meet-up, but because of funding and other difficulties, Athina
>>>> only confirmed in Manchester, that she could start the process now.
>>>>
>>>> Athina can provide us with some of the legal background to having it
>>>> established it in Hull, and presumably, there will be some institutional
>>>> limitations related to the funder's point of view.
>>>>
>>>> As to the precise relationship between this and p2p-f, it is not clear
>>>> to me, but I would say that I would like the two to be related somehow, how
>>>> this can be done in a formal or legal way I don't know, but at the minimum,
>>>> I would like that relationship to be recognized. Of course, I'm not implying
>>>> any dependency, but rather a reputational/relational value linkage.
>>>>
>>>> The new that we can leverage will be hopefully : 1) funding for meetings
>>>> 2) funding for specific research.
>>>>
>>>> I think that recognizing p2p as a legimitate research area is an
>>>> important goal to achieve.
>>>>
>>>> And no, we haven't had time to write up anything on it yet, giving tha
>>>> the decision was only made in Manchester 2-3 weeks ago.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 2. Does there have to be some major write up or presentation of P2P
>>>>> Foundation goals, etc?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> There are various statements etc ... already up in the wiki, such as the
>>>> about page. If you want more, I have nothing against it, though I don't feel
>>>> a particular need for that one. I would be more concerned with a
>>>> constitution for the research group, and eventually later, with a more
>>>> explicit political statement that could lead to the creation of a political
>>>> wing, whenever the time is ripe for that. For the p2p-f in the narrow sense,
>>>> I think we have enough, as it has to be open and pluralist enough to serve
>>>> for various purposes, with people which may have different political points
>>>> of view
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> My answer to your question:
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm willing and able to do as much as help shape and carry the
>>>>> message... which is to say that I'm ready to do my part as part of a team
>>>>> effort. Ryan's and others' help would be necessary, too.
>>>>>
>>>>> Task delegation model:
>>>>>
>>>>> I think we could go with a conditional publish-subscribe model for task
>>>>> delegation whereby the initiator would be willing to commit time and energy
>>>>> to their declared objective if there are others who are willing to commit
>>>>> time and energy to it, too.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> My experience is the following. Every task/project needs one or more
>>>> 'owner-maintainer-gardener'(s) ... This does not mean the person has to do
>>>> everything, but just feel responsible for it, and push it so that it goes
>>>> forward.
>>>>
>>>> When I'm asking somebody else, just as you in this case, this is my
>>>> wish, and my committment is to help, but I cannot carry it, because of the
>>>> already overwhelming combination of tasks I have set myself.
>>>>
>>>> If you take the lead, other people will surely follow,
>>>>
>>>> If not, if despite your leadership it doesn't happen, it means the time
>>>> is not ripe, or our context is not favourable, but we can at least try,
>>>>
>>>> Michel
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Marc
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, Apr 18, 2009 at 12:35 AM, Michel Bauwens <
>>>>> michelsub2004 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Marc,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> just so we understand each other, I'm talking for a board of advisors
>>>>>> for the p2p foundation, not for the p2p research group, which is a separate
>>>>>> issue
>>>>>>
>>>>>> do you agree with starting the process, perhaps through a wiki page,
>>>>>> P2P Wisdom Council ?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Lessig is going to be difficult I think (I'll explain that separately,
>>>>>> as this is a public mailing list), but I'm much more hopeful with people
>>>>>> like Yochai Benkler, Howard Rheingold, and others,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I just need one 'co-owner' to start this, but don't want to do this
>>>>>> entirely on my own,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Michel
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sat, Apr 18, 2009 at 2:29 PM, marc fawzi <marc.fawzi at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Michel,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It's the next logical move, IMO, after having gained a recognized
>>>>>>> university/academic collaborator in the UK. I guess I can talk to yourself
>>>>>>> and Athina about the existing collaborative project with Hull so I can lay
>>>>>>> out the case for further academic collaboration in the context of a board of
>>>>>>> advisors.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I had communicated with Lessig once very casually during his
>>>>>>> considering to run for Congress and he replied right away and in meaningful
>>>>>>> and genuine way.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Overall, I find it fairly easy to get a genuine response back from
>>>>>>> actual intellectuals as they don't tend to play the politics of artificial
>>>>>>> self-scarcity (I also know that pseudo intellectuals who are in it for money
>>>>>>> and power tend to raise their self importance by not answering emails from
>>>>>>> people they don't know or being extremely slow in response or very
>>>>>>> superficial etc... so we have an automatic filter right there by being
>>>>>>> relatively unknown.)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> My issue is that I'm not too familiar with the who's who of the P2P
>>>>>>> world. I only know of Larry Lessig for his copyright reform efforts but I'm
>>>>>>> sure we can dig up a few people at MIT and Harvard, but it should work like
>>>>>>> a domino effect.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This would be a good idea, IMO, and if I fail at it then the issue
>>>>>>> would be just mine not of the idea itself so another person can try again,
>>>>>>> although I don't wanna waste any bullets so to speak.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'll look for separate discussion email from you with appropriate
>>>>>>> CCs.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Marc
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 11:16 PM, Michel Bauwens <
>>>>>>> michelsub2004 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi Marc,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> as you perhaps know, the P2P Foundation is both a global informal
>>>>>>>> group, but with a dormant legal entity under Dutch law, which already has a
>>>>>>>> board.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'm more interested in setting up a board of advisors, with people
>>>>>>>> who could lend their prestige to our projects, by accepting to sit in this
>>>>>>>> board.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Would you be willing to help me with this, so as to make it a
>>>>>>>> reality? It's an old project and dream of mine, which got lost on the
>>>>>>>> sideways, but if you're willing to take the co-lead, I can work on it. We
>>>>>>>> should start by drawing a list of names.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If you agree, and since it is not a research issue, perhaps we can
>>>>>>>> use the p2pf mailing list to work on it? I can also create a wiki page to
>>>>>>>> consolidate suggestions. Once we have an agreed list, we can start
>>>>>>>> approaching them individually,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Michel
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Sat, Apr 18, 2009 at 6:55 AM, marc fawzi <marc.fawzi at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi Michel,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Would it make sense to setup a "board of directors" kind of entity
>>>>>>>>> (but not call it that per se) for the P2P Foundation with people who bring
>>>>>>>>> extravagant weight.. the likes of Lessig and people of his reach and
>>>>>>>>> reputation.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Marc
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 3:37 PM, Ryan Lanham <
>>>>>>>>> rlanham1963 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I applaud this initiative and bravo to those offering the
>>>>>>>>>> funding.  On the other hand, lists of  "researchers" meaning people at
>>>>>>>>>> academic institutions who write papers for journals seems a failed model
>>>>>>>>>> that is less in need of reinforcement than rejection.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Research in an academic sense is not p2p, hasn't been, and never
>>>>>>>>>> will be.  I would not exclude it, I just would feed it by giving it
>>>>>>>>>> additional free assets of prestige and focus without their earning those
>>>>>>>>>> resources in open (truly open) communities.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Ryan Lanham
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 5:09 AM, Michel Bauwens <
>>>>>>>>>> michelsub2004 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>     I´m extremely happy to announce this initiative, which will
>>>>>>>>>>> enable people interested in p2p dynamics to more easily appeal for research
>>>>>>>>>>> funding.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> B  elow is a short announcement from Athina Karatzogianni, please
>>>>>>>>>>> ask for the document that she is referring to in her email listed below. If
>>>>>>>>>>> you are involved with research, academic or not, please let us know and do
>>>>>>>>>>> forward this message to other networks.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> If you have no access to the attached document, please request
>>>>>>>>>>> one from Athina via email
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Michel Bauwens
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Text:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> "The P2P Foundation <http://p2pfoundation.net/> in collaboration
>>>>>>>>>>> with the University of Hull <http://www.hull.ac.uk/>are creating
>>>>>>>>>>> a P2PResearch Group (P2PRG) with a physical base in Hull, in order to
>>>>>>>>>>> initiate a material equivalent to the various virtual networks we are all
>>>>>>>>>>> part of. Some of the goals of the group are to attract funding to improve
>>>>>>>>>>> already existent infrastructures, create more material and immaterial
>>>>>>>>>>> networks and hubs and capture funding for research, conferences and
>>>>>>>>>>> workshops. A conference scheduled for November will also produce a direct
>>>>>>>>>>> and transparent steering committee to oversee the various activities of the
>>>>>>>>>>> group. Therefore, it would be particularly helpful, if everyone, who is
>>>>>>>>>>> interested in participating, fills as much information as they can, in the
>>>>>>>>>>> document attached, and email it to Athina<http://www.hull.ac.uk/humanities/media_studies/staff/athina_karatzogianni/>at
>>>>>>>>>>> athina.k at gmail.com"
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> see and forward doc attached (please edit doc michel as you see
>>>>>>>>>>> fit)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> athina
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>> Dr Athina Karatzogianni
>>>>>>>>>>> Lecturer in Media, Culture and Society
>>>>>>>>>>> The Dean's Representative (Chinese Partnerships)
>>>>>>>>>>> Faculty of Arts and Social Sciences
>>>>>>>>>>> The University of Hull
>>>>>>>>>>> United Kingdom
>>>>>>>>>>> HU6 7RX
>>>>>>>>>>> T: ++44 (0) 1482 46 5790
>>>>>>>>>>> F: ++44 (0) 1482 466107
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.hull.ac.uk/humanities/media_studies/staff/athina_karatzogianni/
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>> Dr Athina Karatzogianni
>>>>>>>>>>> Lecturer in Media, Culture and Society
>>>>>>>>>>> The Dean's Representative (Chinese Partnerships)
>>>>>>>>>>> Faculty of Arts and Social Sciences
>>>>>>>>>>> The University of Hull
>>>>>>>>>>> United Kingdom
>>>>>>>>>>> HU6 7RX
>>>>>>>>>>> T: ++44 (0) 1482 46 5790
>>>>>>>>>>> F: ++44 (0) 1482 466107
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.hull.ac.uk/humanities/media_studies/staff/athina_karatzogianni/
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>> Working at
>>>>>>>>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dhurakij_Pundit_University -
>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.dpu.ac.th/dpuic/info/Research.html -
>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.asianforesightinstitute.org/index.php/eng/The-AFI
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Volunteering at the P2P Foundation:
>>>>>>>>>>> http://p2pfoundation.net  - http://blog.p2pfoundation.net -
>>>>>>>>>>> http://p2pfoundation.ning.com
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Monitor updates at http://del.icio.us/mbauwens
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> The work of the P2P Foundation is supported by SHIFTN,
>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.shiftn.com/
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Marc Fawzi
>>>>>>>>> Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/people/Marc-Fawzi/605919256
>>>>>>>>> LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/marcfawzi
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>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> Working at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dhurakij_Pundit_University-
>>>>>>>> http://www.dpu.ac.th/dpuic/info/Research.html -
>>>>>>>> http://www.asianforesightinstitute.org/index.php/eng/The-AFI
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Volunteering at the P2P Foundation:
>>>>>>>> http://p2pfoundation.net  - http://blog.p2pfoundation.net -
>>>>>>>> http://p2pfoundation.ning.com
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Monitor updates at http://del.icio.us/mbauwens
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The work of the P2P Foundation is supported by SHIFTN,
>>>>>>>> http://www.shiftn.com/
>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Marc Fawzi
>>>>>>> Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/people/Marc-Fawzi/605919256
>>>>>>> LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/marcfawzi
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Working at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dhurakij_Pundit_University -
>>>>>> http://www.dpu.ac.th/dpuic/info/Research.html -
>>>>>> http://www.asianforesightinstitute.org/index.php/eng/The-AFI
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Volunteering at the P2P Foundation:
>>>>>> http://p2pfoundation.net  - http://blog.p2pfoundation.net -
>>>>>> http://p2pfoundation.ning.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Monitor updates at http://del.icio.us/mbauwens
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The work of the P2P Foundation is supported by SHIFTN,
>>>>>> http://www.shiftn.com/
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>>
>>>>> Marc Fawzi
>>>>> Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/people/Marc-Fawzi/605919256
>>>>> LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/marcfawzi
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Working at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dhurakij_Pundit_University -
>>>> http://www.dpu.ac.th/dpuic/info/Research.html -
>>>> http://www.asianforesightinstitute.org/index.php/eng/The-AFI
>>>>
>>>> Volunteering at the P2P Foundation:
>>>> http://p2pfoundation.net  - http://blog.p2pfoundation.net -
>>>> http://p2pfoundation.ning.com
>>>>
>>>> Monitor updates at http://del.icio.us/mbauwens
>>>>
>>>> The work of the P2P Foundation is supported by SHIFTN,
>>>> http://www.shiftn.com/
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> Marc Fawzi
>>> Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/people/Marc-Fawzi/605919256
>>> LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/marcfawzi
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Working at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dhurakij_Pundit_University -
>> http://www.dpu.ac.th/dpuic/info/Research.html -
>> http://www.asianforesightinstitute.org/index.php/eng/The-AFI
>>
>> Volunteering at the P2P Foundation:
>> http://p2pfoundation.net  - http://blog.p2pfoundation.net -
>> http://p2pfoundation.ning.com
>>
>> Monitor updates at http://del.icio.us/mbauwens
>>
>> The work of the P2P Foundation is supported by SHIFTN,
>> http://www.shiftn.com/
>>
>
>
>
> --
>
> Marc Fawzi
> Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/people/Marc-Fawzi/605919256
> LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/marcfawzi
>

-- 
Working at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dhurakij_Pundit_University -
http://www.dpu.ac.th/dpuic/info/Research.html -
http://www.asianforesightinstitute.org/index.php/eng/The-AFI

Volunteering at the P2P Foundation:
http://p2pfoundation.net  - http://blog.p2pfoundation.net -
http://p2pfoundation.ning.com

Monitor updates at http://del.icio.us/mbauwens

The work of the P2P Foundation is supported by SHIFTN,
http://www.shiftn.com/
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