[p2p-research] [p2pf] Launch of P2P Research Group

Sat Apr 18 09:29:23 CEST 2009

Hi Michel,

It's the next logical move, IMO, after having gained a recognized
university/academic collaborator in the UK. I guess I can talk to yourself
and Athina about the existing collaborative project with Hull so I can lay
out the case for further academic collaboration in the context of a board of
advisors.

I had communicated with Lessig once very casually during his considering to
run for Congress and he replied right away and in meaningful and genuine
way.

Overall, I find it fairly easy to get a genuine response back from actual
intellectuals as they don't tend to play the politics of artificial
self-scarcity (I also know that pseudo intellectuals who are in it for money
and power tend to raise their self importance by not answering emails from
people they don't know or being extremely slow in response or very
superficial etc... so we have an automatic filter right there by being
relatively unknown.)

My issue is that I'm not too familiar with the who's who of the P2P world. I
only know of Larry Lessig for his copyright reform efforts but I'm sure we
can dig up a few people at MIT and Harvard, but it should work like a domino
effect.

This would be a good idea, IMO, and if I fail at it then the issue would be
just mine not of the idea itself so another person can try again, although I
don't wanna waste any bullets so to speak.

I'll look for separate discussion email from you with appropriate CCs.

Marc

On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 11:16 PM, Michel Bauwens <michelsub2004 at gmail.com>wrote:

> Hi Marc,
>
> as you perhaps know, the P2P Foundation is both a global informal group,
> but with a dormant legal entity under Dutch law, which already has a board.
>
> I'm more interested in setting up a board of advisors, with people who
> could lend their prestige to our projects, by accepting to sit in this
> board.
>
> Would you be willing to help me with this, so as to make it a reality? It's
> an old project and dream of mine, which got lost on the sideways, but if
> you're willing to take the co-lead, I can work on it. We should start by
> drawing a list of names.
>
> If you agree, and since it is not a research issue, perhaps we can use the
> p2pf mailing list to work on it? I can also create a wiki page to
> consolidate suggestions. Once we have an agreed list, we can start
> approaching them individually,
>
> Michel
>
> On Sat, Apr 18, 2009 at 6:55 AM, marc fawzi <marc.fawzi at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Hi Michel,
>>
>> Would it make sense to setup a "board of directors" kind of entity (but
>> not call it that per se) for the P2P Foundation with people who bring
>> extravagant weight.. the likes of Lessig and people of his reach and
>> reputation.
>>
>> ?
>>
>> Marc
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 3:37 PM, Ryan Lanham <rlanham1963 at gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I applaud this initiative and bravo to those offering the funding.  On
>>> the other hand, lists of  "researchers" meaning people at academic
>>> institutions who write papers for journals seems a failed model that is less
>>> in need of reinforcement than rejection.
>>>
>>> Research in an academic sense is not p2p, hasn't been, and never will
>>> be.  I would not exclude it, I just would feed it by giving it additional
>>> free assets of prestige and focus without their earning those resources in
>>> open (truly open) communities.
>>>
>>> Ryan Lanham
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 5:09 AM, Michel Bauwens <michelsub2004 at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>
>>>>     I´m extremely happy to announce this initiative, which will enable
>>>> people interested in p2p dynamics to more easily appeal for research
>>>> funding.
>>>>
>>>> B  elow is a short announcement from Athina Karatzogianni, please ask
>>>> for the document that she is referring to in her email listed below. If you
>>>> are involved with research, academic or not, please let us know and do
>>>> forward this message to other networks.
>>>>
>>>> If you have no access to the attached document, please request one from
>>>> Athina via email
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Michel Bauwens
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Text:
>>>>
>>>> "The P2P Foundation <http://p2pfoundation.net/> in collaboration with
>>>> the University of Hull <http://www.hull.ac.uk/>are creating a
>>>> P2PResearch Group (P2PRG) with a physical base in Hull, in order to initiate
>>>> a material equivalent to the various virtual networks we are all part of.
>>>> Some of the goals of the group are to attract funding to improve already
>>>> existent infrastructures, create more material and immaterial networks and
>>>> hubs and capture funding for research, conferences and workshops. A
>>>> conference scheduled for November will also produce a direct and transparent
>>>> steering committee to oversee the various activities of the group.
>>>> Therefore, it would be particularly helpful, if everyone, who is interested
>>>> in participating, fills as much information as they can, in the document
>>>> attached, and email it to Athina<http://www.hull.ac.uk/humanities/media_studies/staff/athina_karatzogianni/>at
>>>> athina.k at gmail.com"
>>>>
>>>> see and forward doc attached (please edit doc michel as you see fit)
>>>>
>>>> athina
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Dr Athina Karatzogianni
>>>> Lecturer in Media, Culture and Society
>>>> The Dean's Representative (Chinese Partnerships)
>>>> Faculty of Arts and Social Sciences
>>>> The University of Hull
>>>> United Kingdom
>>>> HU6 7RX
>>>> T: ++44 (0) 1482 46 5790
>>>> F: ++44 (0) 1482 466107
>>>>
>>>> http://www.hull.ac.uk/humanities/media_studies/staff/athina_karatzogianni/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Dr Athina Karatzogianni
>>>> Lecturer in Media, Culture and Society
>>>> The Dean's Representative (Chinese Partnerships)
>>>> Faculty of Arts and Social Sciences
>>>> The University of Hull
>>>> United Kingdom
>>>> HU6 7RX
>>>> T: ++44 (0) 1482 46 5790
>>>> F: ++44 (0) 1482 466107
>>>>
>>>> http://www.hull.ac.uk/humanities/media_studies/staff/athina_karatzogianni/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>> http://p2pfoundation.net  - http://blog.p2pfoundation.net -
>>>> http://p2pfoundation.ning.com
>>>>
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>>>>
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>>>> http://www.shiftn.com/
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
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