[p2p-research] [p2pf] Launch of P2P Research Group

Sat Apr 18 05:57:14 CEST 2009

Change is on our side. Or we're on the side of change.

On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 8:01 PM, Ryan Lanham <rlanham1963 at gmail.com> wrote:

> I'm not suggesting governance mechanisms and I make no claim of
> ownership--it is a community that functions openly, within reason, and that
> is enough for me.  My point is that academia comes with a very stiff
> price--namely that it often doesn't play well with other children.  It is a
> very closed system that I have participated in, value and mostly esteem.
>
> It just isn't p2p and I worry that the bridge opens cans of worms in trying
> to reach possible dialogues when institutions come into play...I've seen it
> again and again and I offer a note of caution.
>
> It is simply very hard for the current academic world to be something other
> than what it is--and in my opinion, the academy is a worldview that is
> relatively consistent and problematic.  Partnerships with governments,
> businesses, NGOs, etc. not done on academia's terms typically develop
> poorly, in my general experiences.  People in academic lives have very
> specific agendas and those rarely mesh with action research.  Times may well
> be changing for all I know or perhaps my own perspective is severely flawed.
>
> Ryan Lanham
>
>
>
> On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 6:55 PM, marc fawzi <marc.fawzi at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Hi Michel,
>>
>> Would it make sense to setup a "board of directors" kind of entity (but
>> not call it that per se) for the P2P Foundation with people who bring
>> extravagant weight.. the likes of Lessig and people of his reach and
>> reputation.
>>
>> ?
>>
>> Marc
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 3:37 PM, Ryan Lanham <rlanham1963 at gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I applaud this initiative and bravo to those offering the funding.  On
>>> the other hand, lists of  "researchers" meaning people at academic
>>> institutions who write papers for journals seems a failed model that is less
>>> in need of reinforcement than rejection.
>>>
>>> Research in an academic sense is not p2p, hasn't been, and never will
>>> be.  I would not exclude it, I just would feed it by giving it additional
>>> free assets of prestige and focus without their earning those resources in
>>> open (truly open) communities.
>>>
>>> Ryan Lanham
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 5:09 AM, Michel Bauwens <michelsub2004 at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>
>>>>     I´m extremely happy to announce this initiative, which will enable
>>>> people interested in p2p dynamics to more easily appeal for research
>>>> funding.
>>>>
>>>> B  elow is a short announcement from Athina Karatzogianni, please ask
>>>> for the document that she is referring to in her email listed below. If you
>>>> are involved with research, academic or not, please let us know and do
>>>> forward this message to other networks.
>>>>
>>>> If you have no access to the attached document, please request one from
>>>> Athina via email
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Michel Bauwens
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Text:
>>>>
>>>> "The P2P Foundation <http://p2pfoundation.net/> in collaboration with
>>>> the University of Hull <http://www.hull.ac.uk/>are creating a
>>>> P2PResearch Group (P2PRG) with a physical base in Hull, in order to initiate
>>>> a material equivalent to the various virtual networks we are all part of.
>>>> Some of the goals of the group are to attract funding to improve already
>>>> existent infrastructures, create more material and immaterial networks and
>>>> hubs and capture funding for research, conferences and workshops. A
>>>> conference scheduled for November will also produce a direct and transparent
>>>> steering committee to oversee the various activities of the group.
>>>> Therefore, it would be particularly helpful, if everyone, who is interested
>>>> in participating, fills as much information as they can, in the document
>>>> attached, and email it to Athina<http://www.hull.ac.uk/humanities/media_studies/staff/athina_karatzogianni/>at
>>>> athina.k at gmail.com"
>>>>
>>>> see and forward doc attached (please edit doc michel as you see fit)
>>>>
>>>> athina
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Dr Athina Karatzogianni
>>>> Lecturer in Media, Culture and Society
>>>> The Dean's Representative (Chinese Partnerships)
>>>> Faculty of Arts and Social Sciences
>>>> The University of Hull
>>>> United Kingdom
>>>> HU6 7RX
>>>> T: ++44 (0) 1482 46 5790
>>>> F: ++44 (0) 1482 466107
>>>>
>>>> http://www.hull.ac.uk/humanities/media_studies/staff/athina_karatzogianni/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Dr Athina Karatzogianni
>>>> Lecturer in Media, Culture and Society
>>>> The Dean's Representative (Chinese Partnerships)
>>>> Faculty of Arts and Social Sciences
>>>> The University of Hull
>>>> United Kingdom
>>>> HU6 7RX
>>>> T: ++44 (0) 1482 46 5790
>>>> F: ++44 (0) 1482 466107
>>>>
>>>> http://www.hull.ac.uk/humanities/media_studies/staff/athina_karatzogianni/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Working at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dhurakij_Pundit_University -
>>>> http://www.dpu.ac.th/dpuic/info/Research.html -
>>>> http://www.asianforesightinstitute.org/index.php/eng/The-AFI
>>>>
>>>> Volunteering at the P2P Foundation:
>>>> http://p2pfoundation.net  - http://blog.p2pfoundation.net -
>>>> http://p2pfoundation.ning.com
>>>>
>>>> Monitor updates at http://del.icio.us/mbauwens
>>>>
>>>> The work of the P2P Foundation is supported by SHIFTN,
>>>> http://www.shiftn.com/
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
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