[p2p-research] 3 Quarks: Inequality the root of all evil?

[marc fawzi]

I'm interested in systems that afford "equal empowerment,"
"resilience," (and even "resistance to negative behavior") and
"cooperation." In other words, I'm interested in the design of "just"
(or fair) systems but I recognize that it's highly driven by what I
think is just and fair.

I believe it's important to allow for differences to emerge out of a
common substrate, but in a way that is not unfair.

I also question whether or not the concept of justice would even exist
if there was no injustice.

In other words, the rise of justice comes after injustice has been
committed, or else you wouldn't recognize justice as justice. It would
not be felt if it was a constant.


On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 10:03 PM, Michel Bauwens
<michelsub2004 at gmail.com> wrote:
> equality is more than equal empowerment, it is also concerned about the
> results of that empowerment, i.e. in social justice,
>
> Michel
>
>
> On 4/14/09, marc fawzi <marc.fawzi at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Also, I want 'equal empowerment' but that is like saying I want a
>> level playing field, not 'equality' per say
>>
>> On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 10:44 AM, marc fawzi <marc.fawzi at gmail.com> wrote:
>> > well, if everyone was equal socially speaking then you won't see any
>> > 'social gradient' and I'm saying that's what gives life it's color and
>> > flavor
>> >
>> > I agree, however, that injustice is injustice and need to be eliminated
>> >
>> > In other words, I differentiate between justice and equality
>> >
>> > I want social justice like the next guy but I'm not ready to affix the
>> > term 'equality' to such end goal.
>> >
>> > Maybe because I'm an engineer and 'equality' means something totally
>> > different to me than to a social thinker?
>> >
>> > I think that might be it!
>> >
>> > Marc
>> >
>> > On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 6:57 AM, Michel Bauwens
>> > <michelsub2004 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> seems you equate equality with sameness ... while it means the opposite
>> >> ...
>> >>
>> >> that differences do not merit large social inequality ...
>> >>
>> >> Michel
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On 4/13/09, marc fawzi <marc.fawzi at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> Well, if equality was the unifying principle in some idea world then
>> >>> such a world would lack the color, flavor and complexity that make
>> >>> life what it is.
>> >>>
>> >>> In other words, if everything was equal in every way then there is
>> >>> nothing to feel, see or think about.
>> >>>
>> >>> The reason "difference" exists is so that there can be something
>> >>> rather than nothing.
>> >>>
>> >>> :D
>> >>> Marc
>> >>>
>> >>> On Sun, Apr 12, 2009 at 7:26 PM, Ryan Lanham <rlanham1963 at gmail.com>
>> >>> wrote:
>> >>> > A link to a Guardian review of a new social theory book:
>> >>> >
>> >>> >
>> >>> >
>> >>> > http://www.3quarksdaily.com/3quarksdaily/2009/04/a-theory-of-everything-well-of-a-different-kind.html
>> >>> >
>> >>> > Ryan Lanham
>> >>> >
>> >>> >
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