[p2p-research] interested in systemic decision-making

Michel Bauwens michelsub2004 at gmail.com
Wed Oct 15 04:49:44 CEST 2008


This could be of interest too:

http://delicious.com/mbauwens/Collective-Choice-Systems

On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 9:23 AM, Josef Davies-Coates <
josef at uniteddiversity.com> wrote:

> I'm very interested in this stuff.
>
> A while back I wrote this round-up of similar decision making stuff:
> http://www.technologyandsocialaction.org/node/190
>
> I've also got this tag, although lots missing:
> http://delicious.com/uniteddiversity/decision_making
>
> And I enjoyed using http://uservoice.com recently :)
>
> I've also recently contacted http://www.cofundos.org/ about them open
> sourcing their work - they're already thinking about it but have yet
> to package up and comment their code to make it useful for others.
>
> Josef.
>
>
> 2008/10/15 Michel Bauwens <michelsub2004 at gmail.com>:
> > see below, in case of interest, please write to Paul at
> > paulcoddmacdonald at googlemail.com
> >
> >
> > text:
> >
> > Michel,
> > Here is a link to the open source democracy project I mentioned. I am a
> > founding committee member and can act as a liaison for you with the
> project,
> > or introduce you to the rest of the committee if you want to get more
> > closely involved.
> > http://www.metagovernment.org
> >
> > Here are some other related projects we have come across over the last 6
> > months or so.
> > http://www.metagovernment.org/wiki/Related_projects
> >
> > My particular pet interest as I said in the Q&A after your presentation
> is
> > 2020people.com. In my view it provides a missing piece in the jigsaw
> that
> > completes the democratic picture. The project aims to evolve the process
> of
> > innovation itself. I feel that decision making is often of a very poor
> > quality even when all participants have the best of intentions and no
> matter
> > how inclusive the process I am not confident that organisations such as
> > government, NGOs and businesses identify, define and analyse problems
> > competently, work to understand causes, effects and the root of the
> issues,
> > linkages to other problems and positive and negative feedback loops. In
> my
> > view without these understandings and without an appreciation for what
> they
> > mean in terms of how the problem manifests and where are the leverage
> > points, any interventions to solve the problem may in fact have the
> opposite
> > effect, or at best simply shift the problem elsewhere. It also means
> > organisations often (or usually) work on peripheral issues, ignoring root
> > causes and far greater opportunities to innovate. These are amply
> evidenced
> > by the situation we are in as a civilisation.
> >
> > My thesis is that no matter if we do "P2P everything", although a massive
> > evolution in its own right, and a quantum leap forward, this will still
> be
> > insufficient for us to save the human species for tremendous suffering. I
> > also believe that we can be spared from the worst of the negative effects
> of
> > our current mistakes and the resulting suffering, if only we could make
> > better more systemic decisions.
> >
> > So that is why 2020people exists. There are a few dozen people involved
> at
> > present, maybe a dozen occasional collaborators and myself. Unfortunately
> no
> > programmers yet. You can find more info here:
> > http://www.2020people.com/node/84
> >
> > I'd be delighted if you might be able to connect me to anyone that might
> > take an interest.
> >
> > Kind regards,
> > Paul
> >
> > --
> > The P2P Foundation researches, documents and promotes peer to peer
> > alternatives.
> >
> > Wiki and Encyclopedia, at http://p2pfoundation.net; Blog, at
> > http://blog.p2pfoundation.net; Newsletter, at
> > http://integralvisioning.org/index.php?topic=p2p
> >
> > Basic essay at http://www.ctheory.net/articles.aspx?id=499; interview at
> > http://poynder.blogspot.com/2006/09/p2p-very-core-of-world-to-come.html
> > BEST VIDEO ON P2P:
> > http://video.google.com.au/videoplay?docid=4549818267592301968&hl=en-AU
> >
> > KEEP UP TO DATE through our Delicious tags at
> http://del.icio.us/mbauwens
> >
> > The work of the P2P Foundation is supported by SHIFTN,
> > http://www.shiftn.com/
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > p2presearch mailing list
> > p2presearch at listcultures.org
> > http://listcultures.org/mailman/listinfo/p2presearch_listcultures.org
> >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Josef Davies-Coates
> 07974 88 88 95
> http://uniteddiversity.com
> Together We Have Everything
>



-- 
The P2P Foundation researches, documents and promotes peer to peer
alternatives.

Wiki and Encyclopedia, at http://p2pfoundation.net; Blog, at
http://blog.p2pfoundation.net; Newsletter, at
http://integralvisioning.org/index.php?topic=p2p

Basic essay at http://www.ctheory.net/articles.aspx?id=499; interview at
http://poynder.blogspot.com/2006/09/p2p-very-core-of-world-to-come.html
BEST VIDEO ON P2P:
http://video.google.com.au/videoplay?docid=4549818267592301968&hl=en-AU

KEEP UP TO DATE through our Delicious tags at http://del.icio.us/mbauwens

The work of the P2P Foundation is supported by SHIFTN,
http://www.shiftn.com/
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: http://listcultures.org/pipermail/p2presearch_listcultures.org/attachments/20081015/72bf048e/attachment-0001.html 


More information about the p2presearch mailing list