[p2p-research] Zeitgeist Addendum

[Nathan Cravens]

What a small world it is. I recently became introduced to the work of
JidduKrishnamurti just days ago after recently reading 'In My Own
Way', an
autobiography by Alan Watts. It would be nice to turn whatever dry writing I
come across and convert it into Watts prose.

The film seems to suggest the monetary system be abandoned altogether. I
don't see how the Venus Project has the resources to carry such a burden
unless more people understand the ground will soon be too fragile to support
life and jump into an Apollo Project to create abundant everything.

I would suggest a Basic Income as an intermediate step, one that can pay the
bills without necessarily going into the workforce. That would make
available time for those to willing participate and create an abundant world
and formulate a way to measure resources in a material based economy.

Nathan


On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 11:49 AM, Josef Davies-Coates <
josef at uniteddiversity.com> wrote:

> Interesting.
>
> I may just watch it now. The first one was really good (in that it
> asked lots of questions) but crap (in framing things in the usual
> "they" are in control be fearful" kind of way) at the same time I
> thought.
>
> This second way does sound a lot more interesting.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Josef.
>
>
> 2008/10/6 Kevin Flanagan <kev.flanagan at gmail.com>:
> > Hey All,
> > I just watched Zeitgeist Addendum.
> > http://www.zeitgeistmovie.com/
> > I was pleasantly surprised with the departure from the doom and gloom of
> > Zeitgeist part 1 with the more constructive approach of presenting an
> > alternative to the current economic system.
> > http://www.thevenusproject.com/
> > Its worth watching.
> > It covers a lot of issues that would be familiar to people on this list,
> > including a discussion on artificial scarcity, and the holding back of
> > socially transformative technologies by corporate control of intellectual
> > property.
> > Anyone here know anything about the Venus project?
> > Regards
> > Kevin Flanagan
> >
> > ps- Here are some of the movies
> > - Proposals for Social Transformation -
> > 1 - Expose the Fed - Stop supporting the major banks that perpetuate the
> > central banking system system. Citibank, JP Morgan Chase, Bank of
> > America. If you have money with these banks close your account and move
> it
> > somewhere else. If you own stock sell it. If you work for them quit.
> > 2 - Boycott Corporate Mass Media, support independent media online and
> > protect the Internet which supports so much free speech.
> > 3 - Boycott the Military - Dont let yourself or anyone you know join the
> > military, it does not serve the people.
> > 4 - Boycott the Energy Companies - Investigate the means by which you can
> > live independently and sustainably,using solar or wind, get off the grid.
> -
> > ( I'd add source and grow as much food as you can locally)
> > 5 - Reject the Political System - In favor of technological redesign.
> > 6- Critical Mass - Join the movement
> > - http://thezeitgeistmovement.com/ which is launching Oct 10th.
> >
> >
> > --
> > Kevin Flanagan
> >
> > Research Blog - http://www.kevflanagan.wordpress.com
> > Video Blog - http://www.kevflanaganvideoartblog.wordpress.com
> > Flickr - http://www.flickr.com/photos/kevflanagan
> >
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