[p2p-research] Capital Club

[Samuel Rose]

Actually, I am working with others in *practice* to change this society,
guiding vision in part to co-create with others new models that obsolete
existing models...

On Thu, Mar 6, 2008 at 5:33 PM, Vinay Gupta <hexayurt at gmail.com> wrote:

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> On Mar 6, 2008, at 11:30 PM, Samuel Rose wrote:
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> If you were replying to me, I have this actual society in mind, that we
> are in right now...
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> On Thu, Mar 6, 2008 at 5:18 PM, Vinay Gupta <hexayurt at gmail.com> wrote:
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> > Free people will create a free market. A free market will not create
> > free people.
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> > I rather like profit, when I make it. I like other things more, at
> > times, but I'm not sure what kind of a reform of society you have in
> > mind...
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> > On Mar 6, 2008, at 9:57 PM, Patrick Anderson wrote:
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> > > Vinay,
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> > > I hope not to sound negative for no reason.
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> > > I have a specific problem with NatCap that is all too common: The idea
> > > of 'profit' (keeping price above cost) is seen as a *goal* instead of
> > > a central *problem*.
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> > > For instance, from http://www.natcap.org/sitepages/pid5.php we read:
> > > "Natural Capitalism describes a future in which business and
> > > environmental interests increasingly overlap, and in which businesses
> > > can better satisfy their customers' needs, increase profits, and help
> > > solve environmental problems all at the same time."
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> > > As long as profit is considered a goal in itself, the troubles I am
> > > trying to describe will persist.
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> > > To reiterate, why do you buy your car instead of renting?  If profit
> > > is important, wouldn't you want to pay it?
> > >
> > > Your peer,
> > > Patrick
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> > > On Thu, Mar 6, 2008 at 12:16 PM, Vinay Gupta <hexayurt at gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
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> > >> What do y'all think of Natural Capitalism from Lovins et. al.?
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> > >> Vinay
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