[p2p-research] Capital Club

[Samuel Rose]

If you were replying to me, I have this actual society in mind, that we are
in right now...

On Thu, Mar 6, 2008 at 5:18 PM, Vinay Gupta <hexayurt at gmail.com> wrote:

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> Free people will create a free market. A free market will not create
> free people.
>
> I rather like profit, when I make it. I like other things more, at
> times, but I'm not sure what kind of a reform of society you have in
> mind...
>
> Vinay
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> On Mar 6, 2008, at 9:57 PM, Patrick Anderson wrote:
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> > Vinay,
> >
> > I hope not to sound negative for no reason.
> >
> > I have a specific problem with NatCap that is all too common: The idea
> > of 'profit' (keeping price above cost) is seen as a *goal* instead of
> > a central *problem*.
> >
> > For instance, from http://www.natcap.org/sitepages/pid5.php we read:
> > "Natural Capitalism describes a future in which business and
> > environmental interests increasingly overlap, and in which businesses
> > can better satisfy their customers' needs, increase profits, and help
> > solve environmental problems all at the same time."
> >
> > As long as profit is considered a goal in itself, the troubles I am
> > trying to describe will persist.
> >
> > To reiterate, why do you buy your car instead of renting?  If profit
> > is important, wouldn't you want to pay it?
> >
> > Your peer,
> > Patrick
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Mar 6, 2008 at 12:16 PM, Vinay Gupta <hexayurt at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> What do y'all think of Natural Capitalism from Lovins et. al.?
> >>
> >> Vinay
>
>


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