[p2p-research] programming a direct democracy

[Michel Bauwens]

Glad it was of use anyway, though I think your blanket dismissal of
deliberation is too radical!!

We need both direct and deliberative,

Michel

On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 1:40 AM, Henrik Ingo <henrik.ingo at avoinelama.fi>
wrote:

> Michel,
>
> This was a nice link, though not perhaps for the reason you describe:
>
> I'm packing for a week-long business trip, so the whole article was
> too long for me to read now. However, I was glimpsing through it, and
> stopped when it talked about sitting in assembly raising hands.
> Clearly this is not what I'm interested in with my system. (Academic
> writing style gives me headache too!)
>
> Yes, the technique proposed could be modified to a useful tool for
> "my" direct democracy society, perhaps... or not. In general I think
> "Deliberative Direct Democracy" ideas are misguided, since the
> fundamental assumption that people can or should spend all their lives
> debating legislation is false. (And since it is false it means that
> those who can spend the most time end up with most influence, which I
> consider a flaw.)
>
> But, the first comment leads to a very interesting Swedish party, with
> analogous ideas to myself. I should be in touch with them sometime.
> This is what I wanted to thank you for :-)
>
> henrik
>
> On Sun, Jun 29, 2008 at 5:35 PM, Michel Bauwens <michelsub2004 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> http://efficasync.blogspot.com/2007/07/programming-deliberative-direct.html
> >
> > Hi Henrik,
> >
> > re your presentation in nottingham,
> >
> > I wonder if you could not report on the following on the blog, or invite
> > Mark to do so?
> >
> > Efficasync - How to Program a Direct Democracy
> >
> > Programming a Deliberative Direct-Democracy.
> > A Method of Open-Source Self-Governance.
> >
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