[p2p-research] Fwd: good books recommendations

[Michel Bauwens]

responses to Stephen Joyce's request

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From: Samuel Rose <samuel.rose at gmail.com>
Date: Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 10:26 PM
Subject: Re: trip to India
To: Michel Bauwens <michelsub2004 at gmail.com>
Cc: Stephen <stephenjoyce at shaw.ca>


Hmmm...books:

Here comes everybody is great, also recommed:
http://www.everythingismiscellaneous.com/

The long tail book, by Chris Anderson, will help you think about how to
engage the multitudes of niches that will make up an eldercare interest
community.

Convergence culture is worth a look to think about multi-media approaches
(like voice conference plus text, plus maybe new ideas that emerge from
brainstorming this)

Some people recommend http://www.socialtext.net/wikinomics/index.cgi I
thought it was really just kind of full of buzzwords. But their approach to
creating a community is at least worth looking at, at least in terms of
structuring and the way they have managed to incite a lot of people to get
involved.

This book is guaranteed to be good when it comes out, written by a friend:
http://www.horsepigcow.com/book-the-whuffie-factor/ really worth reading for
helping gie peopel a refreshing experience in online community

More academically terse but recommended:

Understanding knowledge as a commons:
http://mitpress.mit.edu/catalog/item/default.asp?ttype=2&tid=11012  you'll
be creating a knowledge commons, these people can help you make it work.

Understanding the Wealth of networks:
http://www.benkler.org/wealth_of_networks/index.php?title=Main_Page  can
help frame the model that you are creating based on several factors, which
will help you be more confidant and creative with what you are doing.

If nothing else, read this and you'll be miles ahead of others who don't yet
get this: http://collaboration.wikia.com/wiki/Stigmergic_collaboration

Recommendation: Find an Agile developer, someone who follows a process like
this http://pftracker.awebfactory.com.ar/node/11 that includes both you and
potential users. you'll be very glad you did, and it will help you
prioritize your total vision into manageable chunks of actual functionality.


On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 10:39 AM, Michel Bauwens <michelsub2004 at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Hi Stephen,
>
> I will respond to what I'm doing tomorrow, but already want to say, what a
> great project you are doing.
>
> I can already recommend Sam Rose as a great expert on community sites, with
> all the right ideas, he probably knows which practical books to recommend.
> at samuel.rose at gmail.com
>
> I keep track of the more political and theoretical books, see here
> http://p2pfoundation.net/Category:Books, and if you see any good ones, use
> our blog bookstore to order them, we get a small percentage!!
>
>  "Henrik Ingo" <henrik.ingo at avoinelama.fi>, the author of Open Life, also
> comes to mind as someone who might know the practical books,
>
> feel free to write them with my greetings, and better yet, if I can copy
> your request on one of our mailing lists, more people can profit from their
> replies,
>
> Michel
>
>
>
> On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 9:32 PM, Stephen <stephenjoyce at shaw.ca> wrote:
>
>>  I'm reading up on the 'produsage' evolution and trying to figure out how
>> to apply the principles (such as they are at this stage) to building an
>> on-line community for people caring for aging parents. Our project is
>> entitled 'EldercareABC' and will be launched as a web site late Sept of this
>> year. Your peer2peer work is interesting and I'm trying to find ways to get
>> total strangers to interact, share their knowledge and join a community
>> around the eldercare issue. I have angel investment and have earmarked $25K
>> for the first phase of site development (design and coding) – so if you know
>> anyone who specializes in community-building websites? (it also has to be
>> able to handle e-commerce as we are using a social-entrepreneurship model)
>> we are putting out the RFP in a few days time.
>>
>>
>>
>> Have read Shirky's 'Here Comes Everybody'  are there any other books or
>> resources that you think I should be checking out Michel? There is a lot of
>> technical stuff and I'm wondering who is writing about the practical
>> 'how-tos' ?
>>
>>
>>
>> I have been planning a combination of forums, Skype-rooms (using the free
>> 10-lines system for facilitated conversations) and the use of 'Virtual
>> Facilitators'  along with volunteer moderators to help us build the
>> community. What I really want to build is a 'Wikipedia of eldercare' and
>> actively looking for people who may be able to help me work out how to do
>> that.
>>
>>
>>
>> Well Michel, - you did ask!
>>
>>
>>
>> I'm almost afraid to ask what you are up to – in case I can't understand
>> it (said with deep respect) so what are you doing?
>>
>>
>>
>> SteveJ
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> PS: Visit our new blog:
>>
>> *WWW.GettingCleverTogether.com* <http://www.gettingclevertogether.com/>
>>
>> Stephen J Joyce
>>
>> Author of the best seller : 'Teaching an Anthill to Fetch: Developing
>> Collaborative Intelligence @ Work'
>>
>> T: (403) 912 5210
>>
>> F: (403) 912 5213
>>
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>>
>> Visit the book at www.AntHillSite.com <http://www.anthillsite.com/>
>>
>> Visit Stephen at www.StephenJamesJoyce.com<http://www.stephenjamesjoyce.com/>
>>
>>
>>
>> "Everything you want in life has a price connected to it. There's a price
>> to pay if you want to make things better, a price to pay just for leaving
>> things as they are, a price for everything."
>>
>>
>>
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>> *From:* Michel Bauwens [mailto:michelsub2004 at gmail.com]
>> *Sent:* July 14, 2008 8:12 AM
>>
>> *To:* Stephen
>> *Subject:* Re: trip to India
>>
>>
>>
>> No problem Stephen,
>>
>> how are things for you now, current interests?
>>
>> Michel
>>
>> On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 8:54 PM, Stephen <stephenjoyce at shaw.ca> wrote:
>>
>> Sorry – no one in Brazil – and yes maybe the chap in India was originally
>> from you – I exchanged emails with him – very nice chap – sorry I couldn't
>> be much help –
>>
>>
>>
>> Best of luck in all your endeavors
>>
>>
>>
>> Kindest regards
>>
>>
>>
>> Steve J
>>
>>
>>
>> PS: Visit our new blog:
>>
>> *WWW.GettingCleverTogether.com* <http://www.gettingclevertogether.com/>
>>
>> Stephen J Joyce
>>
>> Author of the best seller : 'Teaching an Anthill to Fetch: Developing
>> Collaborative Intelligence @ Work'
>>
>> T: (403) 912 5210
>>
>> F: (403) 912 5213
>>
>> E: change at zenergypd.com
>>
>> Visit the book at www.AntHillSite.com <http://www.anthillsite.com/>
>>
>> Visit Stephen at www.StephenJamesJoyce.com<http://www.stephenjamesjoyce.com/>
>>
>>
>>
>> "Everything you want in life has a price connected to it. There's a price
>> to pay if you want to make things better, a price to pay just for leaving
>> things as they are, a price for everything."
>>
>>
>>
>> Harry Browne
>>
>>
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>> *From:* Michel Bauwens [mailto:michelsub2004 at gmail.com]
>> *Sent:* July 14, 2008 7:07 AM
>> *To:* Stephen
>> *Subject:* Re: trip to India
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks Stephen, just trying <g>
>>
>> just in case: do you know people in brazil?
>>
>> I will get in touch with Sankaran, actually, I think I put him in touch
>> with you, but I had forgotten about this contact,
>>
>> Michel
>>
>> On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 7:28 PM, Stephen <stephenjoyce at shaw.ca> wrote:
>>
>> Glad to hear from you Michel – and I'm sorry I can't be of much help this
>> time to you – the process of finding institutions and contacts didn't go
>> that well – partially because there was not much time to prepare ahead of
>> trip (which was for purpose of visiting my daughter) and partially because
>> when I did get to Delhi – I got sick due to the air quality and coughed for
>> five weeks
>>
>>
>> *The only realistic connection I made was *K Sankaran – he is a professor
>> at the  International Management Institute *He is my Linked in so just
>> ask for an introduction…he was a very nice guy but I never got to meet him
>> in India due to my illness.*
>>
>> Sorry I can't be much use Michel – I hope next time you ask for help I
>> will have more information for you.
>>
>>
>>
>> I have been reading Alex Bruins book on 'Blogs etc and Beyond' – you are
>> mentioned a lot – you are obviously making a difference in the debate –
>> congratulations on making such a significant contribution.
>>
>>
>>
>> Once again I regret I couldn't be more helpful the next time you ask for
>> something.
>>
>>
>>
>> Kindest regards
>>
>>
>>
>> Steve J
>>
>> * *
>>
>>
>>
>> PS: Visit our new blog:
>>
>> *WWW.GettingCleverTogether.com* <http://www.gettingclevertogether.com/>
>>
>> Stephen J Joyce
>>
>> Author of the best seller : 'Teaching an Anthill to Fetch: Developing
>> Collaborative Intelligence @ Work'
>>
>> T: (403) 912 5210
>>
>> F: (403) 912 5213
>>
>> E: change at zenergypd.com
>>
>> Visit the book at www.AntHillSite.com <http://www.anthillsite.com/>
>>
>> Visit Stephen at www.StephenJamesJoyce.com<http://www.stephenjamesjoyce.com/>
>>
>>
>>
>> "Everything you want in life has a price connected to it. There's a price
>> to pay if you want to make things better, a price to pay just for leaving
>> things as they are, a price for everything."
>>
>>
>>
>> Harry Browne
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>>   ------------------------------
>>
>> *From:* Michel Bauwens [mailto:michelsub2004 at gmail.com]
>> *Sent:* July 12, 2008 2:53 AM
>> *To:* stephen joyce
>> *Subject:* trip to India
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi Stephen,
>>
>> I may go to India in December, to Kerala and perhaps, to Pune,
>>
>> I wonder if you could eventually recommend my lectures to the people who
>> invited me, as I recall you went on a presentation tour there as well,
>>
>> Let me know if you need any supporting material,
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>>
>> Michel
>>
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