[p2p-research] Conflict and Complexity

Michel Bauwens michelsub2004 at gmail.com
Sat Jan 12 13:15:14 CET 2008 

I'm willing to follow Paul's suggestion, as my experience with frappr is
that it is very time consuming to get the map to the right place

So Paul, could you create a p2pfoundation account and upload these
continental maps.

Once it is there, I will start adding,

Michel

On Jan 11, 2008 11:38 PM, Samuel Rose <samuel.rose at gmail.com> wrote:

> Interactive map is working now, I just can't create custom views of it
> sectioned off into different continents.
>
> Plus, if I do this later, someone would need to re-enter data again. So,
> maybe flickr is a good home for it?
>
>
> On Jan 11, 2008 11:30 AM, Paul B. Hartzog <paulbhartzog at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > I think you should use flickr for now with a p2pf account.  When sam
> > is ready, you can contemplate moving to an interactive map
> >
> > -p
> >
> > On Jan 11, 2008 9:41 AM, Samuel Rose < samuel.rose at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Ok, a seperate site called p2pmappingproject.
> > >
> > > I don't have the ability to create maps per continent. The code that I
> > am
> > > working with only creates one large map of the world, that starts out
> > > centered on one set of LONG/LAT coordinates. I simply don't have the
> > time to
> > > change it right now, although sometime over the next year I might be
> > able to
> > > dedicate some time to trying to modify the code on this module.
> > >
> > > But, it could still be very useful in it's current state. The way that
> > it
> > > works is that you use a tool that asks for an address, then creates a
> > macro
> > > that you paste into the body of the post in Drupal (you can also add
> > notes
> > > and info, and it's possible to create other fields per-entry if there
> > is a
> > > desire for other types of data, probably tags would also be useful).
> > This
> > > creates both individual posts for each entry, and a meta-map of the
> > world
> > > with markers.
> > >
> > > All of that said, the flickr method is just as good, if you prefer
> > flickr,
> > > that's fine with me, too. I leave it up to you, Michel (and Paul, and
> > > everyone else interested).
> > >
> > >
> > > Sam
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >  On Jan 10, 2008 11:27 PM, Michel Bauwens <michelsub2004 at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > > > Certainly looks great to me, perhaps better than flickr still.
> > > >
> > > > My proposal: 1) let's call it p2pmappingproject
> > > >
> > > > If Paul agrees, could you create one map per continent (separating
> > north
> > > and south america)
> > > >
> > > > if you go to the country pages on our wiki, those are the only ones
> > so far
> > > that could be said to be country coded already, but it could be the
> > starting
> > > raw material.
> > > >
> > > > If Howard is interested: if there is a volunteer on your side to
> > create
> > > the nodes, I'm willing to send you a bunch of material, already
> > > pre-categorized, from the p2pfoundation wiki, that would fit in both
> > your
> > > maps; also willing to do the same for cooperation commons material
> > after
> > > that .. but what I don't want to do is the technical work of adding
> > the
> > > links,
> > > >
> > > > Michel
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Jan 11, 2008 3:38 AM, Samuel Rose <samuel.rose at gmail.com > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Hi Paul, Michel, others
> > > > > Check it out:
> > > > >
> > > > > http://socialsynergyweb.org/malmo/map/node
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > I just made this for Adam Arvidsson, for a project he is working
> > on in
> > > Swede, to research emergent creativity in Malmö. Until I figure out
> > how to
> > > get the map to zoom-adjust to markers, if you zoom in once ("+") on
> > the map,
> > > you'll see a marker, which corresponds to a node in Drupal . So, you
> > can
> > > create a map location in Drupal, then use this Meta-map to display all
> > of
> > > the markers that each user has placed.
> > > > >
> > > > > This does what you are looking for, if I'm not mistaken, and we
> > could
> > > add to http://socialsynergyweb.org/p2project if you'd like?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Jan 10, 2008 12:02 AM, Michel Bauwens < michelsub2004 at gmail.com
> > >
> > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Given your enthusiasm, let's do this!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Who can initiate a clickable world map? For me, it doesn't
> > really
> > > matter where it is located.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > How did you do the flickr thing?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Perhaps you could initiate one map per continent? or one whole
> > map? I
> > > think continental might be more manageable, as navigation demands
> > would be
> > > minimized ...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Michel
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Jan 9, 2008 10:13 PM, Paul B. Hartzog <
> > paulbhartzog at gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > ok
> > > > > > > now you are talking about a cool idea :-)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > if we can identify a place or method for the hosting and
> > tagging of
> > > the map
> > > > > > > (not necessarily flickr)
> > > > > > > and then a proper mechanism for additions (me, or you, or open
> > like
> > > a
> > > > > > > wiki, etc.)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > this could be VERY useful!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > A world map of "new p2p activity":  smart mobs, initiatives,
> > > centres, etc.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I am certain that Howard and others I know would be interested
> > in a
> > > > > > > resource like this
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > -p
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Jan 9, 2008 2:35 AM, Michel Bauwens <
> > michelsub2004 at gmail.com >
> > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > Paul,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > this is great.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I wonder if no one would be willing to work with me on a
> > series of
> > > such maps
> > > > > > > > for the P2P Foundation material.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I would help with doing the location research, and <you>
> > would
> > > assist in
> > > > > > > > maintaining that map?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Sections that would particularly benefit from it would be:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > http://www.p2pfoundation.net/Category:Movements and
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >  http://www.p2pfoundation.net/Category:Individuals
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Michel
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On Jan 8, 2008 10:59 PM, Paul B. Hartzog <
> > paulbhartzog at gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I keep a map of these things here:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/paulbhartzog/2059397679/
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > please feel free to add any I have missed (such as from
> > the list
> > > below)
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > -p
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > On Jan 7, 2008 9:52 PM, Athina Karatzogianni <
> > > athina.k at gmail.com>
> > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Hi All,
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Coming back to centres on complexity and network
> > theory
> > > here's some
> > > > > > > > > > links and a conference call you might be interested in
> > if you
> > > are into
> > > > > > > > that
> > > > > > > > > > kind of stuff
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.psych.lse.ac.uk/complexity/
> > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.liv.ac.uk/ccr/
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.ioct.dmu.ac.uk/
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > http://www.lancs.ac.uk/ias/researchgroups/complexity/complexity.htm
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.complexity-society.com/
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.crea.polytechnique.fr/
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.i10.org.uk/node/6074
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
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