[p2p-research] Conflict and Complexity

Samuel Rose samuel.rose at gmail.com
Fri Jan 11 17:38:03 CET 2008


Interactive map is working now, I just can't create custom views of it
sectioned off into different continents.

Plus, if I do this later, someone would need to re-enter data again. So,
maybe flickr is a good home for it?

On Jan 11, 2008 11:30 AM, Paul B. Hartzog <paulbhartzog at gmail.com> wrote:

> I think you should use flickr for now with a p2pf account.  When sam
> is ready, you can contemplate moving to an interactive map
>
> -p
>
> On Jan 11, 2008 9:41 AM, Samuel Rose <samuel.rose at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Ok, a seperate site called p2pmappingproject.
> >
> > I don't have the ability to create maps per continent. The code that I
> am
> > working with only creates one large map of the world, that starts out
> > centered on one set of LONG/LAT coordinates. I simply don't have the
> time to
> > change it right now, although sometime over the next year I might be
> able to
> > dedicate some time to trying to modify the code on this module.
> >
> > But, it could still be very useful in it's current state. The way that
> it
> > works is that you use a tool that asks for an address, then creates a
> macro
> > that you paste into the body of the post in Drupal (you can also add
> notes
> > and info, and it's possible to create other fields per-entry if there is
> a
> > desire for other types of data, probably tags would also be useful).
> This
> > creates both individual posts for each entry, and a meta-map of the
> world
> > with markers.
> >
> > All of that said, the flickr method is just as good, if you prefer
> flickr,
> > that's fine with me, too. I leave it up to you, Michel (and Paul, and
> > everyone else interested).
> >
> >
> > Sam
> >
> >
> >
> >  On Jan 10, 2008 11:27 PM, Michel Bauwens <michelsub2004 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > > Certainly looks great to me, perhaps better than flickr still.
> > >
> > > My proposal: 1) let's call it p2pmappingproject
> > >
> > > If Paul agrees, could you create one map per continent (separating
> north
> > and south america)
> > >
> > > if you go to the country pages on our wiki, those are the only ones so
> far
> > that could be said to be country coded already, but it could be the
> starting
> > raw material.
> > >
> > > If Howard is interested: if there is a volunteer on your side to
> create
> > the nodes, I'm willing to send you a bunch of material, already
> > pre-categorized, from the p2pfoundation wiki, that would fit in both
> your
> > maps; also willing to do the same for cooperation commons material after
> > that .. but what I don't want to do is the technical work of adding the
> > links,
> > >
> > > Michel
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Jan 11, 2008 3:38 AM, Samuel Rose <samuel.rose at gmail.com > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi Paul, Michel, others
> > > > Check it out:
> > > >
> > > > http://socialsynergyweb.org/malmo/map/node
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I just made this for Adam Arvidsson, for a project he is working on
> in
> > Swede, to research emergent creativity in Malmö. Until I figure out how
> to
> > get the map to zoom-adjust to markers, if you zoom in once ("+") on the
> map,
> > you'll see a marker, which corresponds to a node in Drupal . So, you can
> > create a map location in Drupal, then use this Meta-map to display all
> of
> > the markers that each user has placed.
> > > >
> > > > This does what you are looking for, if I'm not mistaken, and we
> could
> > add to http://socialsynergyweb.org/p2project if you'd like?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Jan 10, 2008 12:02 AM, Michel Bauwens < michelsub2004 at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Given your enthusiasm, let's do this!
> > > > >
> > > > > Who can initiate a clickable world map? For me, it doesn't really
> > matter where it is located.
> > > > >
> > > > > How did you do the flickr thing?
> > > > >
> > > > > Perhaps you could initiate one map per continent? or one whole
> map? I
> > think continental might be more manageable, as navigation demands would
> be
> > minimized ...
> > > > >
> > > > > Michel
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Jan 9, 2008 10:13 PM, Paul B. Hartzog <paulbhartzog at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > ok
> > > > > > now you are talking about a cool idea :-)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > if we can identify a place or method for the hosting and tagging
> of
> > the map
> > > > > > (not necessarily flickr)
> > > > > > and then a proper mechanism for additions (me, or you, or open
> like
> > a
> > > > > > wiki, etc.)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > this could be VERY useful!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > A world map of "new p2p activity":  smart mobs, initiatives,
> > centres, etc.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I am certain that Howard and others I know would be interested
> in a
> > > > > > resource like this
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -p
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Jan 9, 2008 2:35 AM, Michel Bauwens <michelsub2004 at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > > > > > > Paul,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > this is great.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I wonder if no one would be willing to work with me on a
> series of
> > such maps
> > > > > > > for the P2P Foundation material.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I would help with doing the location research, and <you> would
> > assist in
> > > > > > > maintaining that map?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Sections that would particularly benefit from it would be:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > http://www.p2pfoundation.net/Category:Movements and
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >  http://www.p2pfoundation.net/Category:Individuals
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Michel
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Jan 8, 2008 10:59 PM, Paul B. Hartzog <
> paulbhartzog at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I keep a map of these things here:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/paulbhartzog/2059397679/
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > please feel free to add any I have missed (such as from the
> list
> > below)
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > -p
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > On Jan 7, 2008 9:52 PM, Athina Karatzogianni <
> > athina.k at gmail.com>
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Hi All,
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Coming back to centres on complexity and network
> theory
> > here's some
> > > > > > > > > links and a conference call you might be interested in if
> you
> > are into
> > > > > > > that
> > > > > > > > > kind of stuff
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > http://www.psych.lse.ac.uk/complexity/
> > > > > > > > > > > http://www.liv.ac.uk/ccr/
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > http://www.ioct.dmu.ac.uk/
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > http://www.lancs.ac.uk/ias/researchgroups/complexity/complexity.htm
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > http://www.complexity-society.com/
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > http://www.crea.polytechnique.fr/
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > http://www.i10.org.uk/node/6074
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
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