[p2p-research] CoLiberation

[Tere Vadén]

very good explanation. thanks.

it seems to me that this is the essence of education/raising children.

it is not possible to sustain all the possibilities a newborn has: 
education is always a process of limiting/destroying while 
enabling/empowering. dialectics.

Paul B. Hartzog wrote:
> Although I never coined 'coliberation' (which I love)
> I DID make the case a few years back
> that there are kinds of cooperation that
> 1) constrain you
> 2) but enable new possibilities
> and that if the benefit of the new possibilities outweighs
> the cost of the constraint, then the two parties are "liberated"
> 
> The key is in understanding that they were ALREADY BOUND beforehand,
> but that they were bound to a system in which they did not cooperate.
> 
> Again, it is a choice between being constrained/empowered by what you
> are doing now,
> vs.
> being constrained/empowered by doing something else (cooperating).
> 
> To make the point I used TCP/IP but any language will work.  It goes like this:
> 
> BEFORE inventing a language that enables communication, two parties
> occupy a "space of possibilities."  AFTER inventing a language that
> enables communication, the two parties occupy a NEW space.
> 
> The crucial point is that communication DOES NOT simply mean that they
> can now cooperate on things that they were already doing individually
> before (like farming).  What it means to be in a NEW space, is that
> now they can contemplate, design, and execute things that were not
> even considerable before, and which would never have even been thought
> of (like building cities).
> 
> To make THAT point, I have used symbiosis of plant roots and fungi.
> It is NOT the case that the fungi were doing their thing, and so were
> the tree roots, and they teamed up to do it better.  Symbiosis enable
> the new tree/fungus hybrid organism to consider utilizing (eating)
> resources that were not even possible before.  For example, now the
> fungus can metabolize a substance for the tree that the fungus itself
> would never have metabolized before (because it had no use for it),
> and the tree can do the same for the fungus.  It's only in combination
> that they see the new resources.
> 
> An economic example would be producing a product for which you have NO
> use, simply so you can trade it with someone who DOES want it, for
> something that you want, that they are producing and do not use
> themselves.  (Globalization has brought this to the fore, as factories
> produce items purely for export to regions of the world other than
> where the factory is located).
> 
> hope that helps,
> -p
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Dec 27, 2007 6:56 AM, Michel Bauwens <michelsub2004 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Dear friends,
>>
>> I would like to promote the work of Bernie DeKoven around CoLiberation, and
>> the associated facilitation techniques.
>>
>> The reason is the following, see the quote below but in short: I think it is
>> the name for the active ethical principle behind p2p work, equipotentiality
>> being its ontological principle. See also then below for a few extra links
>> on this work.
>>
>> http://www.p2pfoundation.net/Coliberation
>>
>> ""If we accept Equipotentiality as the basic worldview and principle
>> explaining peer to peer dynamics, then Coliberation is the active ethical
>> principle derived from it.
>>
>> "It signifies both the shared transcendence of the group, and the practice
>> of designing social processes so each of us can be the condition and enabler
>> of the other participants reaching their highest potential."
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: Bernie DeKoven < bdekoven at gmail.com>
>> Date: Dec 26, 2007 11:25 PM
>> Subject: Re: thank you
>> To: Michel Bauwens <michelsub2004 at gmail.com>
>>
>>
>> My dear Michel,
>>
>> You are right, of course, about Barcamps, Unconferences, etc. I am somewhat
>> in touch with Chris Messina and keep a toe in the business door through my
>> writing in Coworking. Here, in fact, is an article of mine you might find
>> relevant, and amusing -
>> http://www.majorfun.com/news/2006/11/25-technography-revisited.html
>>
>> Yes again - "everything depends on the whims of that one person who claims
>> enlightenment." I was in such a boat myself (more of a row boat than a sail
>> boat) when I founded the Games Preserve ('71-'81). It has taken the world at
>> least 30 years to get me to understand the error of that particular way.
>>
>> A couple of articles that I think are particularly relevant, re The
>> Well-Played Game, are this one - http://www.deepfun.com/community.html - on
>> "The Fun Community" (originally I called it the "Play Community" - but, as
>> you know, I'm finding "fun" to be a better, humbler, more approachable word.
>> You might also find this  -  http://www.deepfun.com/theater.html - of use -
>> at least in terms of the forces that led me to where I apparently still am.
>>
>> I am thoroughly enjoying this dialog, Michel, and look forward to its
>> continued unfolding.
>>
>> Also, please see this - http://www.deepfun.com/2007/12/coliberation.html -
>> let me know if you'd like any corrections, elaborations....
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Bernie DeKoven
>>
>> http://www.deepfun.com
>> http://www.majorfun.com
>>  http://www.junkyardsports.com
>> http://www.coworking.com
>>
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>>
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