[p2p-research] ideas for geek platform

Fri Jan 4 04:05:38 CET 2008

Hi Dante,

thanks for the suggestion and creating the new page.

There was already a page here at
http://p2pfoundation.net/P2P_Foundation:Community_Portal

but I will be using your to do list for more concrete suggestions.

What do you mean with the To Do Map ?

Michel

On Jan 4, 2008 9:22 AM, Dante-Gabryell Monson <dante.monson at gmail.com>
wrote:

>
> Thanks Michel for sharing your views on the direction of developments you
> would like to pursue for the http://p2pfoundation.net   wiki and blog
>
> In this reply , I like to rephrase a bit what we seem to be doing ... and
> my main practical question is
>
> " I wonder if there is a " To do " space on the p2p wiki ?
>
> On the http://p2pfoundation.net main page ,
> I do notice the "Can we help you? How to support us? " section and links ,
>
>
> but did not find a " to do list " and , perhaps soon , " to do map " ? "
>
> I allowed myself the draft initiative , in case it is not in some other
> place :
>
> http://p2pfoundation.net/To_Do_List
>
> http://p2pfoundation.net/To_Do_Map
>
> and could perhaps invite all of us to make further suggestions and share
> visions and intentions ?
>
> ...
> ...
>
> " Visualization " of any set of chosen relations between any meta-data ...
> further opening up Transparency towards greater collaborative empowerment
> and broadened participation... Convergence , Confluence , Synthesis ,
> Processes , Synchronization , Swarming , Boundary Spanning , Synergy
> Opportunities , ...  Hubs ...
>
> just to pick some of the themes and the paradigms many of us seem to be
> developing or flowing to.
>
> I certainly feel the p2pfoundation knowledge base you have initiated - and
> , for much of it , built up -
> and all the people it now has the potential of attracting ,
>
> is certainly a node in this new kind of non-structure rhizome paradigm i
> feel is emerging
> ( or at least , that I like to see emerging ).
>
> The Value Networks movements <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Value_network>also seem to be other emerging nodes , although my current impression is
> that Verna Allee Value Networks seem to be mostly centered on the United
> States , and to my own current perception are somewhat elitist / corporate
> managment based ( ? )
>
> I am looking forward to the unleashing of potential in the emergent
> convergence of human resources,  eventually also leading to the funds needed
> to pay for the development of tools and the research and development related
> to peer to peer paradigms.
>
> I wonder if there is a " To do " space on the p2p wiki ? On the
> http://p2pfoundation.net main page ,
> I do notice the "Can we help you? How to support us? " section and links ,
> but did not find a " to do list " and , perhaps soon , " to do map " ?
>
> It feels it is all inter connected , and every development has the
> potential to impact all the others.
>
> Mapping the resources and the relations of resources we have access to ,
> or that we intend to converge ,
> while using the intentions and the memes that motivate such convergence ,
> is a interesting prospect.
>
> I think about networks of individuals who meet up and discuss in a non
> digital world , and then reconnect in the digital world together with other
> individuals and networks based in other cities and regions ,
>
> online and offline boundary spanner and nomads ,
>
> academics , self learners , students , programmers , artists , travelers ,
> all kinds of thinkers ,  entrepreneurs  , entredonneurs , downshifting
> ex-corporates , rhizomeshifting cooperates , netroot activists ,  managers
> ,  ... collective intelligence enthusiasts ...
>
> and soon I hope also more retired passionnate self learners  ,  and their
> unschooled grand children ...
>
> all individuals connected to various old paradigm structures , allowing
> the use of existing resources controlled by organizations as to develop the
> meta-cortex facilitating optimization of energy and potential to increase
> the scope of simple complexity.
>
> I look forward to develop more space to experiment , and converge more
> resources to facilitate such value creation.
>
> :-)
>
> Dante
>
> http://oikoumene.coforum.net/DanteGabryell
>
>
> On Jan 3, 2008 9:35 AM, Michel Bauwens <michelsub2004 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Perhaps this is the moment to express one of my wishes for the
> > development of our wiki in 2008.
> >
> > As you perhaps know, the wiki has now  *6,407* total pages in the
> > database, of which *4,405* pages "that are probably legitimate content
> > pages" (according to the statistics page). These have generated a total of
> > *2,502,150* page views, in a period of 18 months or so.
> >
> > So I think as a reference tool, this is quite good, and we now enter a
> > new phase of visualization's, see
> > http://blog.p2pfoundation.net/announcing-a-new-p2p-meme-mapping-project-for-2008/2008/01/02
> >
> > But my real wish is to make it more geared not just to reference, but as
> > a tool for current developments.
> >
> > My idea is to somehow integrate the wiki with a blog and feeds, that
> > would be visible from within the same wiki page, not just link buttons to
> > outside material.
> >
> > So my idea is that each sector page, would have: 1) the evolving
> > introduction (already there); 2) a blog for editorials; 3) integrated feeds
> > to the wiki updates, delicious feeds of specific related tags (mine and
> > others); and related blogs on the topic.
> >
> > Would a mix between drupal and mediawiki do the trick. I really want to
> > keep the mediawiki going.
> >
> > We have no funds for this, but the p2p-funding scheme I'm developping
> > with Sam, could serve to pay some of these development projects.
> >
> > Anyways, that's my wish for 2008 ...
> >
> > Michel
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Jan 3, 2008 12:22 AM, Josef Davies-Coates < josef at uniteddiversity.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > Great thread! Thanks Sam for some good links.
> > >
> > > United Diversity functions in a very similar fashion. We're pretty
> > > much all freelance consultants, but we all invoice as United Diversity and
> > > pass jobs onto each other. We've done WordPress and Drupal stuff in the past
> > > (and probably will do more in the future) but now focus more on powerful
> > > python tools and web frameworks.
> > >
> > > We're currently working with The Hub and others (e.g. largeblue,
> > > developers of http://green.tv see development at http://pesto.largeblue.net/trac
> > > ) to build a similar team and partnership developing with Zope 3 (a
> > > complete re-write whose component architecture enables massive code re-use)
> > > and plugging it together with other python tools using the power of WSGI
> > > http://wsgi.org/wsgi
> > >
> > > A couple of good organisational links for anyone who hasn't seen them
> > > already:
> > >
> > > http://www.esrad.org.uk/resources/vsmg_3/screen.php?page=home
> > > http://www.open-organizations.org/
> > >
> > > Definitely sounds like we should all be working together more closely
> > > show how?
> > >
> > > Smiles.
> > >
> > > Josef.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On 18/12/2007, chiaro scuro < kiaroskuro at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On 12/17/07, Samuel Rose <samuel.rose at gmail.com > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > PS.
> > > > >
> > > > > One suggestion I can offer up front is to create processes and
> > > > > ssytems based around http://socialsynergyweb.net/cgi-bin/wiki/OpenBusinessModel
> > > > >   principles, like putting decisions out to network members,
> > > > > sharing revenue with OSS projects, and making processes transparent to the
> > > > > group.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > hey guys, I'm really impressed by the quality of the answers I
> > > > received. very very relevant stuff!  I am not able to answer properly for a
> > > > few days as I am travelling at the moment and even now I am freezing my ass
> > > > connected on a flaky network on a street corner in NY :-)
> > > >
> > > > If by a slim chance anyone of you is in NY tomorrow (18th dec) or
> > > > the morning of the 19th we could meet up and have a chat in person. I am
> > > > going to check my email again later tonight and tomorrow morning ,NY time.
> > > >
> > > > thanks again and speak to you soon..
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Josef Davies-Coates
> > > 07974 88 88 95
> > > http://uniteddiversity.com
> > > Together We Have Everything
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> >
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> >
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alternatives.

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