[p2p-research] ideas for geek platform

Fri Jan 4 03:22:01 CET 2008

Thanks Michel for sharing your views on the direction of developments you
would like to pursue for the http://p2pfoundation.net   wiki and blog

In this reply , I like to rephrase a bit what we seem to be doing ... and my
main practical question is

" I wonder if there is a " To do " space on the p2p wiki ?

On the http://p2pfoundation.net main page ,
I do notice the "Can we help you? How to support us? " section and links ,

but did not find a " to do list " and , perhaps soon , " to do map " ? "

I allowed myself the draft initiative , in case it is not in some other
place :

http://p2pfoundation.net/To_Do_List

http://p2pfoundation.net/To_Do_Map

and could perhaps invite all of us to make further suggestions and share
visions and intentions ?

...
...

" Visualization " of any set of chosen relations between any meta-data ...
further opening up Transparency towards greater collaborative empowerment
and broadened participation... Convergence , Confluence , Synthesis ,
Processes , Synchronization , Swarming , Boundary Spanning , Synergy
Opportunities , ...  Hubs ...

just to pick some of the themes and the paradigms many of us seem to be
developing or flowing to.

I certainly feel the p2pfoundation knowledge base you have initiated - and ,
for much of it , built up -
and all the people it now has the potential of attracting ,

is certainly a node in this new kind of non-structure rhizome paradigm i
feel is emerging
( or at least , that I like to see emerging ).

The Value Networks movements
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Value_network>also seem to be other
emerging nodes , although my current impression is
that Verna Allee Value Networks seem to be mostly centered on the United
States , and to my own current perception are somewhat elitist / corporate
managment based ( ? )

I am looking forward to the unleashing of potential in the emergent
convergence of human resources,  eventually also leading to the funds needed
to pay for the development of tools and the research and development related
to peer to peer paradigms.

I wonder if there is a " To do " space on the p2p wiki ? On the
http://p2pfoundation.net main page ,
I do notice the "Can we help you? How to support us? " section and links ,
but did not find a " to do list " and , perhaps soon , " to do map " ?

It feels it is all inter connected , and every development has the potential
to impact all the others.

Mapping the resources and the relations of resources we have access to , or
that we intend to converge ,
while using the intentions and the memes that motivate such convergence , is
a interesting prospect.

I think about networks of individuals who meet up and discuss in a non
digital world , and then reconnect in the digital world together with other
individuals and networks based in other cities and regions ,

online and offline boundary spanner and nomads ,

academics , self learners , students , programmers , artists , travelers ,
all kinds of thinkers ,  entrepreneurs  , entredonneurs , downshifting
ex-corporates , rhizomeshifting cooperates , netroot activists ,  managers
,  ... collective intelligence enthusiasts ...

and soon I hope also more retired passionnate self learners  ,  and their
unschooled grand children ...

all individuals connected to various old paradigm structures , allowing the
use of existing resources controlled by organizations as to develop the
meta-cortex facilitating optimization of energy and potential to increase
the scope of simple complexity.

I look forward to develop more space to experiment , and converge more
resources to facilitate such value creation.

:-)

Dante

http://oikoumene.coforum.net/DanteGabryell

On Jan 3, 2008 9:35 AM, Michel Bauwens <michelsub2004 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Perhaps this is the moment to express one of my wishes for the development
> of our wiki in 2008.
>
> As you perhaps know, the wiki has now  *6,407* total pages in the
> database, of which *4,405* pages "that are probably legitimate content
> pages" (according to the statistics page). These have generated a total of
> *2,502,150* page views, in a period of 18 months or so.
>
> So I think as a reference tool, this is quite good, and we now enter a new
> phase of visualization's, see
> http://blog.p2pfoundation.net/announcing-a-new-p2p-meme-mapping-project-for-2008/2008/01/02
>
> But my real wish is to make it more geared not just to reference, but as a
> tool for current developments.
>
> My idea is to somehow integrate the wiki with a blog and feeds, that would
> be visible from within the same wiki page, not just link buttons to outside
> material.
>
> So my idea is that each sector page, would have: 1) the evolving
> introduction (already there); 2) a blog for editorials; 3) integrated feeds
> to the wiki updates, delicious feeds of specific related tags (mine and
> others); and related blogs on the topic.
>
> Would a mix between drupal and mediawiki do the trick. I really want to
> keep the mediawiki going.
>
> We have no funds for this, but the p2p-funding scheme I'm developping with
> Sam, could serve to pay some of these development projects.
>
> Anyways, that's my wish for 2008 ...
>
> Michel
>
>
>
>
> On Jan 3, 2008 12:22 AM, Josef Davies-Coates <josef at uniteddiversity.com >
> wrote:
>
> > Hi all,
> >
> > Great thread! Thanks Sam for some good links.
> >
> > United Diversity functions in a very similar fashion. We're pretty much
> > all freelance consultants, but we all invoice as United Diversity and pass
> > jobs onto each other. We've done WordPress and Drupal stuff in the past (and
> > probably will do more in the future) but now focus more on powerful python
> > tools and web frameworks.
> >
> > We're currently working with The Hub and others (e.g. largeblue,
> > developers of http://green.tv see development at http://pesto.largeblue.net/trac
> > ) to build a similar team and partnership developing with Zope 3 (a
> > complete re-write whose component architecture enables massive code re-use)
> > and plugging it together with other python tools using the power of WSGI
> > http://wsgi.org/wsgi
> >
> > A couple of good organisational links for anyone who hasn't seen them
> > already:
> >
> > http://www.esrad.org.uk/resources/vsmg_3/screen.php?page=home
> > http://www.open-organizations.org/
> >
> > Definitely sounds like we should all be working together more closely
> > show how?
> >
> > Smiles.
> >
> > Josef.
> >
> >
> >
> > On 18/12/2007, chiaro scuro < kiaroskuro at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > On 12/17/07, Samuel Rose <samuel.rose at gmail.com > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > PS.
> > > >
> > > > One suggestion I can offer up front is to create processes and
> > > > ssytems based around http://socialsynergyweb.net/cgi-bin/wiki/OpenBusinessModel
> > > >   principles, like putting decisions out to network members, sharing
> > > > revenue with OSS projects, and making processes transparent to the group.
> > > >
> > >
> > > hey guys, I'm really impressed by the quality of the answers I
> > > received. very very relevant stuff!  I am not able to answer properly for a
> > > few days as I am travelling at the moment and even now I am freezing my ass
> > > connected on a flaky network on a street corner in NY :-)
> > >
> > > If by a slim chance anyone of you is in NY tomorrow (18th dec) or the
> > > morning of the 19th we could meet up and have a chat in person. I am going
> > > to check my email again later tonight and tomorrow morning ,NY time.
> > >
> > > thanks again and speak to you soon..
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Josef Davies-Coates
> > 07974 88 88 95
> > http://uniteddiversity.com
> > Together We Have Everything
>
>
>
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