[p2p-research] from a us intelligence briefing

Michel Bauwens michelsub2004 at gmail.com
Mon Apr 28 19:08:20 CEST 2008


as far as I remember, some countries like Spain and Italy are much lower,
and in countries with immigrant population, the figures hide the very low
rates of the native population.

I guess the replacement level is not an absolute, as the carrying capacity
of the earth could do with a lesser supply, but with rates around 1.1. we
are talking about halving the population each generation right?

from the mathematically challenged,

Michel

On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 11:43 PM, Tere Vadén <tere.vaden at uta.fi> wrote:

> a little bit under 1.8 in Finland
>
> http://www.stm.fi/Resource.phx/publishing/documents/476/chapter2.htx
>
> Michel Bauwens wrote:
>
> > Does anyone know anything about birth rates in scandinavian countries,
> > how much does such welfare affect decisions to have children?
> >
> > Michel
> >
> > On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 12:56 PM, Henrik Ingo <henrik.ingo at avoinelama.fi<mailto:
> > henrik.ingo at avoinelama.fi>> wrote:
> >
> >    On Sun, Apr 27, 2008 at 9:27 PM, Michel Bauwens
> >    <michelsub2004 at gmail.com <mailto:michelsub2004 at gmail.com>> wrote:
> >     >  - does capitalist society even gives a choice as to what life
> > path
> >     >  needs to be taken? many women (and men) would like to stay home
> >    a few
> >     >  years to take care of the children, but cannot
> >
> >    Ah, I recommend reading
> >
> >    Manuel Castells and Pekka Himanen. The Information Society and the
> >    Welfare State: The Finnish Model (2002)
> >
> >    ...coupled with a subsequent relocation to Finland of course :-)
> >
> >    My newborn sons mother is at the start of a (up to) 3 year paid
> >    maternity leave. (Which can of course be extended by the simple
> > method
> >    of having more children.)
> >
> >    And personally I'm enjoying my decision to work for a distributed
> >    company such a Sun (former MySQL), where I spend 99% of my days
> >    working from home office. So I'm working, but with my family.
> >
> >
> >    There are various shades to capitalism and Himanen & Castells argue
> >    Finland is an example of having the best of both worlds.
> >
> >    henrik
> >
> >    --
> >    email: henrik.ingo at avoinelama.fi <mailto:henrik.ingo at avoinelama.fi>
> >    tel: +358-40-5697354
> >    www: www.avoinelama.fi/~hingo <http://www.avoinelama.fi/%7Ehingo> <
> > http://www.avoinelama.fi/%7Ehingo>
> >    book: www.openlife.cc <http://www.openlife.cc>
> >
> >
> >
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