[p2p-research] p2p resource pooling

Samuel Rose samuel.rose at gmail.com
Sat Nov 24 19:38:58 CET 2007 

yes, I was thining that one of the first things we can do as a beta group is
to pool money to fund paying a lawyer to draft the needed legal framework,
perhaps. Under the umbrella of p2pfoundation (perhaps as a non-profit LLC),
but making sure we are covered under the agreements people make when they
join. (This legal agreement could then be a template for future groups who
want to adopt our processes, too).

So, we could discuss amongst ourselves, and co-draft our agreed-upon rules,
then put them in front of a lawyer, to make sure they comply with
international law, and to make sure that users agree ahead of time not to
sue or go after one another, and to make the non-profit LLC the holder of
the assetts.

On Nov 24, 2007 1:19 PM, Paul B. Hartzog <paulbhartzog at gmail.com> wrote:

> Someone with appropriate legal savvy needs to make sure that the
> financial stuff is all taken care of appropriately so that there is no
> danger of nasty arguments down the road. :-)
>
> -p
>
> On Nov 24, 2007 1:13 PM, Samuel Rose <samuel.rose at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Good point, Paul. Will give you that access in a couple of minutes...
> >
> > Eventually, we would also maybe make a seperate paypal account, that
> could
> > be like donate at p2pfoundation.net , that Michel, plus project admins,
> plus
> > whomever is working with the money has access to, so that it is
> seperate.
> >
> > beyond that, we could save processing fees by eventually setting up a
> bank
> > account, and using bank's apparatus/payment gateway, as it would
> > theoretically be more secure, and  have flat fee (or free with some
> credit
> > union business accounts)
> >
> >
> >
> > On Nov 24, 2007 11:37 AM, Paul B. Hartzog <paulbhartzog at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > > Sam
> > > Although I can not likely do development in the foreseeable future, it
> > > would be good to have at least one other administrator than yourself.
> > > I am willing to be that backup person.
> > >
> > > -p
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Nov 21, 2007 7:08 PM, Samuel Rose <samuel.rose at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > Thanks for the list, Ned (and Inst. for NC)!
> > > >
> > > > Just wanted to let anyone interested know that I am working on p2p
> > resource
> > > > pool site right now:
> > > >
> > > > http://socialsynergyweb.com/resourcepool/
> > > >
> > > > The basic idea that Michel conveyed to me, and the operating model
> is:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > 1) people contribute $/EURO 5 or 10 per month to the common pool
> > > >
> > > > 2) 40% of the money is given back to contributing individuals in a
> > monthly
> > > > pool of money
> > > >
> > > > 3) 40% is available for for-benefit activities. People describe
> their
> > > > activities, and if x number of members say 'ok', the money is given
> to
> > them
> > > >
> > > > 4) 15% of the pool is invested in some venture that can generate a
> > return
> > > >
> > > > 5) 5% is given to the administration of the project, i.e. the pool
> of
> > > > contributing organization"
> > > > So, I am starting to set up the mechanisms to enable automatic
> > recurring/and
> > > > one-time acceptance of donations, and community decision making for
> the
> > > > investing/for-benefit donations.
> > > >
> > > > Proposals could list what the money would be spent for, and people
> on
> > this
> > > > site could offer services in place of money, thereby possibly
> putting
> > some
> > > > of the needed money back into the donation pool.
> > > >
> > > > Plus, people could list surplus non-money resources somewhere, or
> needed
> > > > resources. And, people could just discuss what they need, and what
> they
> > have
> > > > in general, and what they are doing. (Sometimes people don't realize
> > what
> > > > they need, or what others have lying around gathering dust, until
> they
> > start
> > > > talking to each other...)
> > > > The site is, and will always be invite-only, and is still in
> development
> > at
> > > > this time. As soon as the basic functions are working correctly,
> I'll be
> > > > sure to invite anyone interested. The URL for the site may
> eventually
> > > > change. Anyone with Drupal knowledge who wants access now and can
> help
> > > > develop the site is welcome. Let me know and I'll send you an invite
> > right
> > > > away.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Sam
> > > >
> > > > On Nov 21, 2007 6:45 PM, Ned Rossiter <ned at nedrossiter.org> wrote:
> > > > > hi all, great to meet all of you who could make it to the p2p
> meeting
> > > > > in nottingham.  and for those who couldn't make it - greetings.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
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> > > > Social Synergy
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> > > >
> > > > Related Sites/Blogs/Projects:
> > > > OpenBusinessModels:
> http://socialsynergyweb.net/cgi-bin/wiki/FrontPage
> > > >   http://p2pfoundation.net
> > > > http://blog.p2pfoundation.net
> > > > http://www.cooperationcommons.com
> > > >  http://barcampbank.org
> > > > http://bfwatch.barcampbank.org
> > > > http://communitywiki.org
> > > > http://extinctionlevelevent.com
> > > >
> > > > Information Filtering:
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> > > > http://twitter.com/SamRose
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> >
> >
> > Sam Rose
> > Social Synergy
> > Cel: +1-517-974-6451
> > AIM: Str9960
> > Linkedin Profile: https://www.linkedin.com/in/samrose
> > skype: samuelrose
> > email: samuel.rose at gmail.com
> >  http://socialsynergyweb.com/services
> > http://blog.socialsynergyweb.com
> >
> > Related Sites/Blogs/Projects:
> > OpenBusinessModels: http://socialsynergyweb.net/cgi-bin/wiki/FrontPage
> > http://p2pfoundation.net
> >  http://blog.p2pfoundation.net
> > http://www.cooperationcommons.com
> > http://barcampbank.org
> >  http://bfwatch.barcampbank.org
> > http://communitywiki.org
> > http://extinctionlevelevent.com
> >
> > Information Filtering:
> >  http://socialsynergyweb.com/gregarius/
> > http://ma.gnolia.com/people/srose/bookmarks
> > http://del.icio.us/srose
> >  http://twitter.com/SamRose
>
>
>
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> --------------------------------------------------------
> The Universe is made up of stories, not atoms.
>                 --Muriel Rukeyser
>
> See differently, then you will act differently.
>                 --Paul B. Hartzog
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Sam Rose
Social Synergy
Cel: +1-517-974-6451
AIM: Str9960
Linkedin Profile: https://www.linkedin.com/in/samrose
skype: samuelrose
email: samuel.rose at gmail.com
http://socialsynergyweb.com/services
http://blog.socialsynergyweb.com

Related Sites/Blogs/Projects:
OpenBusinessModels: http://socialsynergyweb.net/cgi-bin/wiki/FrontPage
http://p2pfoundation.net
http://blog.p2pfoundation.net
http://www.cooperationcommons.com
http://barcampbank.org
http://bfwatch.barcampbank.org
http://communitywiki.org
http://extinctionlevelevent.com

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http://socialsynergyweb.com/gregarius/
http://ma.gnolia.com/people/srose/bookmarks
http://del.icio.us/srose
http://twitter.com/SamRose
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