[p2p-research] p2p resource pooling

Sat Nov 24 16:47:58 CET 2007

Adam,

I like your ideas. Would you like me to send you an invite for the beta
development? We only have 4 people so far, so you'd be member #5...

Sam

On Nov 24, 2007 6:48 AM, adam Arvidsson <erica.adam at gmail.com> wrote:

> I think this is a great idea: it will offer a way to give
> institutional and some financial stability to our activities, making
> the p2pfoundation something more than a blog. Is the idea to invite a
> number of supporters/subscribers? Each of these pay a sum per month?
> In that case I think some people might be prepared to pay more than
> €10- maybe we can stretch it up to € 50 for some? (That's like having
> a second cell phone..) Do we want corporate members as well ? In that
> case what kind? Small companies , start ups? We could charge them
> more?
>
> just some rants
>
> best
>
> adam
>
> 2007/11/24, Michel Bauwens <michelsub2004 at gmail.com>:
> >
> >
> > On Nov 22, 2007 7:08 AM, Samuel Rose <samuel.rose at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Thanks for the list, Ned (and Inst. for NC)!
> > >
> > > Just wanted to let anyone interested know that I am working on p2p
> > resource pool site right now:
> > >
> > > http://socialsynergyweb.com/resourcepool/
> > >
> > > The basic idea that Michel conveyed to me, and the operating model is:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > 1) people contribute $/EURO 5 or 10 per month to the common pool
> > >
> > > 2) 40% of the money is given back to contributing individuals in a
> monthly
> > pool of money
> > >
> > > 3) 40% is available for for-benefit activities. People describe their
> > activities, and if x number of members say 'ok', the money is given to
> them
> >
> > any ideas of how this would work. I'm thinking that participants would
> have
> > an obligation to respond to requests by either saying, 1) yes; 2) no 3)
> > deferring my contribution to another month. The contributions of those
> > saying yes, with a treshold of say EUR 500, would go to the requesting
> > project
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > 4) 15% of the pool is invested in some venture that can generate a
> return
> >
> > to be decided by who?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > 5) 5% is given to the administration of the project, i.e. the pool of
> > contributing organization"
> >
> > that would be the p2pfoundation as a legal construct, and the people
> working
> > on maintaining the project, such as you Sam.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > So, I am starting to set up the mechanisms to enable automatic
> > recurring/and one-time acceptance of donations, and community decision
> > making for the investing/for-benefit donations.
> > >
> > > Proposals could list what the money would be spent for, and people on
> this
> > site could offer services in place of money, thereby possibly putting
> some
> > of the needed money back into the donation pool.
> >
> > I'm not sure I understand this,  you mean offering collaboration on top
> of
> > the money?
> > >
> > >
> > > Plus, people could list surplus non-money resources somewhere, or
> needed
> > resources. And, people could just discuss what they need, and what they
> have
> > in general, and what they are doing. (Sometimes people don't realize
> what
> > they need, or what others have lying around gathering dust, until they
> start
> > talking to each other...)
> >
> > ok
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > The site is, and will always be invite-only, and is still in
> development
> > at this time. As soon as the basic functions are working correctly, I'll
> be
> > sure to invite anyone interested. The URL for the site may eventually
> > change. Anyone with Drupal knowledge who wants access now and can help
> > develop the site is welcome. Let me know and I'll send you an invite
> right
> > away.
> >
> > Let's start with about a dozen people in beta?
> >
> >
> > Michel
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Sam
> > >
> > >
> > > On Nov 21, 2007 6:45 PM, Ned Rossiter <ned at nedrossiter.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > > hi all, great to meet all of you who could make it to the p2p
> meeting
> > > > in nottingham.  and for those who couldn't make it - greetings.
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
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> > > http://www.cooperationcommons.com
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> > > http://extinctionlevelevent.com
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Related Sites/Blogs/Projects:
OpenBusinessModels: http://socialsynergyweb.net/cgi-bin/wiki/FrontPage
http://p2pfoundation.net
http://blog.p2pfoundation.net
http://www.cooperationcommons.com
http://barcampbank.org
http://bfwatch.barcampbank.org
http://communitywiki.org
http://extinctionlevelevent.com

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