[p2p-research] Your Swarm Registration <Watchdog: Virus checked>

Tue Dec 25 21:30:39 CET 2007

Dear friends,

John Chu is doing research on corporate governance and will work
specifically on this section, see
http://p2pfoundation.net/Category:Enterprise, together with Matthew
Cooperrider.

Below is a particular question on how p2p governance tackles value
conflicts.

Any contribution on this query would be most appreciated,

Michel

> I have started reading up on the wealth of P2P materials. With my limited
> understanding of corporate governance and governance in general whether
> political, economic, etc., one issue that strikes me as important is the
> fundamental underlying theme of power in terms of rule making and
> enforcement which in turn are largely driven by human values (including
> ethics and morals). I wonder whether it is a correct perspective to say that
> one evaluation criterion of the merit of governance system is
> how it best cultivate, foster and protect the collectively desired human
> values and decide the trade-off in such as and when required. Because if it
> is so, then one aspect of advancing the cause of P2P governance would seem
> to be a demonstration of how P2P system can better handle such an issue than
> other alternatives. I wonder if there is any work on how P2P system and/or
> view specify, operationalise and resolve the human values and their
> conflicts?
>
> By the way, I have been exploring the quantification of human values in
> terms of applied axiology. Do you think the work of Robert S. Hartman and
> others in this field has any use in the development and evaluation of
> governance systems?
>
> Best wishes for the festive season and 2008.
>
>
> Regards,
>
> John Chu
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Michel Bauwens <michelsub2004 at gmail.com>
> *To:* JC <john.chu at unisg.ch>
> *Cc:* dante.monson at gmail.com ; Josef Davies-Coates<josef at uniteddiversity.com>; Steve
> Bosserman <stevebosserman at yahoo.com> ; Samuel Rose <samuel.rose at gmail.com>; Matthew
> Cooperrider <mattcooperrider at gmail.com>
> *Sent:* Saturday, December 08, 2007 1:59 AM
> *Subject:* Re: Your Swarm Registration <Watchdog: Virus checked>
>
> Done, here at http://www.p2pfoundation.net/Chu%2C_John
>
>
> On Dec 7, 2007 2:08 PM, JC < john.chu at unisg.ch> wrote:
>
> >  Michel,
> >
> >  Please excuse the delay in reverting to you as I have been having
> > exams.
> >
> > Please find below my bio as requested. I hope that it is of the right
> > 'size'.
> > **
> > *PROFILE OF MR. JOHN CHU*
> >
> > Mr. Chu is a PhD candidate with a research focus on corporate governance
> > at a major public university in Switzerland.
> >
> > John has over 15 years of experience spanning across the areas of
> > strategy development, project management, financial analysis, investment
> > evaluation, project finance, business process reengineering, acquisition due
> > diligence, alliance creation, commercial negotiation as well as systems
> > specification, selection, design and development. He has worked in
> > industries such as management consulting, IT, manufacturing,
> > telecommunications, education and energy for a number of major
> > organizations.
> > John is a CPA and CMC. His academic qualifications include bachelor of
> > business systems, bachelor of business (banking and finance) and MBA
> > (specialising in marketing and management).
> > He also has an extensive track record in speaking engagements,
> > conference chairmanship and publications.
> >
> >
> > If you need anything else from me, just let me know.
> >
> > Look forward to working with everyone on this exciting topic.
> >
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > John
> >
> >
> >  ----- Original Message -----
> > *From:* Michel Bauwens <michelsub2004 at gmail.com>
> > *To:* Matthew Cooperrider <mattcooperrider at gmail.com>
> >  *Cc:* JC <john.chu at unisg.ch> ; dante.monson at gmail.com ; Josef
> > Davies-Coates <josef at uniteddiversity.com> ; Steve Bosserman<stevebosserman at yahoo.com>; Samuel
> > Rose <samuel.rose at gmail.com>
> > *Sent:* Wednesday, November 14, 2007 10:27 PM
> > *Subject:* Re: Your Swarm Registration <Watchdog: Virus checked>
> >
> > Mattew, John: could you add or provide me with your bios? I would like
> > to add your names there as maintainers and link to your bios,
> >
> > Michel
> >
> >
> > On Nov 12, 2007 11:06 PM, Matthew Cooperrider <
> > mattcooperrider at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > I would recommend "open enterprise" instead of "open business" in most
> > > cases.  It provides a nice umbrella for business, nonprofit, cooperative,
> > > and informal organizations.
> > >
> > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enterprise
> > >
> > > Matt
> > >
> > >
> > > On Nov 12, 2007 1:28 AM, Michel Bauwens < michelsub2004 at gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > ok, that's really great ... I will create an extra link under
> > > > projects ...
> > > >
> > > > What about "Open Business Governance Models"
> > > >
> > > > Once you create an entry, you simple have to add [[Category:Name]]
> > > > to the entry and it will appear there automotically.
> > > >
> > > > Shall we call that tag: Open-Business, so that you'd need to add
> > > > [[Category:Open-Business]] ?
> > > >
> > > > If you want to suggest any id/pw, I can give you access ..
> > > >
> > > > I'll put your name as maintainer and that of John if he confirms.
> > > >
> > > > May take 1-2 days after reception of your answer, as I'm travelling,
> > > >
> > > > Michel
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >   On 11/11/07, Matthew Cooperrider <mattcooperrider at gmail.com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi Michel, John, and all:
> > > > >
> > > > > I think that you make an excellent suggestion as well.  I've
> > > > > thought about trying to merge my efforts with another project, and the fit
> > > > > never seems quite right.  I see now that my ideas fit quite nicely beneath
> > > > > the P2P umbrella, and I'm also heartened by the maturity and sophistication
> > > > > of the P2P Foundation wiki.  I'm on board.
> > > > >
> > > > > -Matt
> > > > >
> > > > > On Nov 11, 2007 4:03 AM, JC <john.chu at unisg.ch> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > >  Dear Michel,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thank you for the suggestion. I welcome the opportunity to
> > > > > > discuss with other researchers as to how to go about this worthwhile
> > > > > > endeavour.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Cheers,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > John Chu
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > *From:* Michel Bauwens <michelsub2004 at gmail.com>
> > > > > > *To:* Matthew Cooperrider <mattcooperrider at gmail.com> ; JC<john.chu at unisg.ch>
> > > > > > *Cc:* dante.monson at gmail.com ; Josef Davies-Coates<josef at uniteddiversity.com>; Steve
> > > > > > Bosserman <stevebosserman at yahoo.com> ; Samuel Rose<samuel.rose at gmail.com>
> > > > > > *Sent:* Sunday, November 11, 2007 2:59 PM
> > > > > > *Subject:* Re: Your Swarm Registration <Watchdog: Virus checked>
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I a small comment, though I very well understand the need and
> > > > > > relative advantage of having your own research wiki, please do also consider
> > > > > > the possibility to join our collective efforts.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > This would entail creating a project page on Open Business
> > > > > > Governance, see third column of our main wiki page at
> > > > > > http://p2pfoundation.net ... of which Matthew and John Chu would
> > > > > > be the main maintainers ...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The advantage is that you could draw on the many dozens related
> > > > > > entries we have already compiled and can serve as base for faster
> > > > > > development of a collective knowledge base.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > In some other fields, such as around the open sustainability
> > > > > > projects of appropedia, I also noted a consolidation of wiki efforts,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Michel
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Nov 11, 2007 3:35 AM, Matthew Cooperrider <
> > > > > > mattcooperrider at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hi Dante (and all),
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I see now how you found the site.  I met Josef on the espians
> > > > > > > channel, and am quite interested in his various projects like United
> > > > > > > Diversity and open.coop.  I am also familiar with Sam and
> > > > > > > Michel's work at Social Synergy, Cooperation Commons, and P2P Foundation.
> > > > > > > Steve, I look forward to reading more of your work.  Also, the transitioner
> > > > > > > is new to me, but looks amazing.  Thanks for the link.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > The SwarMachine (and the surrounding foundation) is admittedly
> > > > > > > a piece of vaporware.  I was working on initiating some rather ambitious
> > > > > > > projects earlier this year, and have since realized how much work starting
> > > > > > > those projects from scratch would have required.  Better to join existing
> > > > > > > efforts.  I've turned my attention mostly to the espians to see if they can
> > > > > > > produce the next generation of web-based collaboration platform.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > In the meantime, I'm focusing my individual studies on new
> > > > > > > enterprise models that are both competitive and sustainable.  I've moved my
> > > > > > > research platform to bandillero.com/scholar .  The most
> > > > > > > promising avenue I'm exploring is the work of Suehiko Ono and his concept of
> > > > > > > the Comprehensive Cooperative Township: http://www.green-arrow.net/cctwiki/index.php?title=Main_Page
> > > > > > > .  Read the Executive Summary to get an idea of what he's
> > > > > > > doing.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > In sum, he's created a legal model for a massive member-driven
> > > > > > > leaderless organization, in which ownership does not equal control: one
> > > > > > > person, one vote.  He gave me an early draft of his operating agreement,
> > > > > > > which he is developing in partnership with Winston & Strawn LLP.  I don't
> > > > > > > think he's ready to post it publicly yet, but I could pass it on if anyone
> > > > > > > is interested.  I think that such a business model would empower the LLC
> > > > > > > members to act in a more swarm-like and ad hoc way with regard to business
> > > > > > > opportunities.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I'll be leaving my full-time job at the end of this year, in
> > > > > > > order to focus on finally completing my MA degree and to write my thesis on
> > > > > > > this very subject.  I'm excited to be able to spend more time sharing ideas
> > > > > > > with everyone on this email and discovering synergies among our various
> > > > > > > projects.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Best,
> > > > > > > Matt
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Nov 10, 2007 2:21 PM, Dante-Gabryell Monson <dante.monson at gmail.com
> > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Great to hear from you Matt! ( cc: Josef , Michel , Sam ,
> > > > > > > > Steve )
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I was asking myself questions regarding the synchornization
> > > > > > > > of " particles " within swarms , and the " logistics of options " , and
> > > > > > > > found the swarm foundation wiki<http://www.bandillero.com/swarm/tiki-index.php>by coincidence through Josef s delicious links.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Are you in touch with people relating themselves to the p2p
> > > > > > > > foundation ? or to the transitioner<http://thetransitioner.org/wen/tiki-index.php>?
> > > > > > > > <http://wiki.espians.com/User_talk:Happyseaurchin>
> > > > > > > > http://p2pfoundation.net  ( I ll forward this to Michel
> > > > > > > > Bauwens <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michel_Bauwens> , Samuel
> > > > > > > > Rose
> > > > > > > > <http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&client=firefox&rls=org.mozilla%253Aen-US%253Aunofficial&hs=CwF&q=%2522samuel+rose%2522+socialsynergyweb&btnG=Search>,
> > > > > > > > Steve Bosserman<http://www.google.com/search?q=%2522steve+bosserman%2522&start=0&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:unofficial>and Josef
> > > > > > > > David-Coates
> > > > > > > > <http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&client=firefox&rls=org.mozilla%253Aen-US%253Aunofficial&hs=dJv&q=%2522Josef+Davies-Coates%2522&btnG=Search>
> > > > > > > > )
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I notice you are in touch with the espians<http://wiki.espians.com/User_talk:Happyseaurchin>
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I have the feeling that interesting synergies could be made
> > > > > > > > wit hthe p2pfoundation , and SocialSynergyWeb.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I will paste Sam , Michel , and Josef s footers below.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > and will forward you a recent discussion.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Speak to you soon
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Dante
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > Sam Rose
> > > > > > > > Social Synergy
> > > > > > > > Cel: +1-517-974-6451
> > > > > > > > AIM: Str9960
> > > > > > > > Linkedin Profile: https://www.linkedin.com/in/samrose
> > > > > > > > skype: samuelrose
> > > > > > > > email: samuel.rose at gmail.com
> > > > > > > > http://socialsynergyweb.com/services
> > > > > > > > http://blog.socialsynergyweb.com
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Related Sites/Blogs/Projects:
> > > > > > > > OpenBusinessModels:
> > > > > > > > http://socialsynergyweb.net/cgi-bin/wiki/FrontPage
> > > > > > > > http://p2pfoundation.net
> > > > > > > > http://blog.p2pfoundation.net
> > > > > > > > http://www.cooperationcommons.com
> > > > > > > > http://barcampbank.org
> > > > > > > > http://bfwatch.barcampbank.org
> > > > > > > > http://communitywiki.org
> > > > > > > > http://extinctionlevelevent.com
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Information Filtering:
> > > > > > > > http://socialsynergyweb.com/gregarius/
> > > > > > > > http://ma.gnolia.com/people/srose/bookmarks
> > > > > > > > http://del.icio.us/srose
> > > > > > > > http://twitter.com/SamRose
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > -----
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Michel Bauwens
> > > > > > > > The P2P Foundation researches, documents and promotes peer
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> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Basic essay at http://www.ctheory.net/articles.aspx?id=499 ;
> > > > > > > > interview at http://poynder.blogspot.com/2006/09/p2p-very-core-of-world-to-come.html
> > > > > > > >
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> > > > > > > > --------
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Josef Davies -Coates
> > > > > > > > 07974 88 88 95
> > > > > > > > http://uniteddiversity.com
> > > > > > > > Together We Have Everything
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Watch these films:
> > > > > > > > http://uniteddiversity.com/money-as-debt/
> > > > > > > > http://uniteddiversity.com/the-corporation/
> > > > > > > > http://uniteddiversity.com/the-revolution-will-not-be-televised/
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Visit these links:
> > > > > > > > http://del.icio.us/tag/100links
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > ---------
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On 11/10/07, Matthew Cooperrider < mattcooperrider at gmail.com
> > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Hi Dante,
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I saw that you submitted a registration request to the
> > > > > > > > > Swarm Foundation website.  That project is mostly defunct now, but I'm still
> > > > > > > > > working on similar ideas.  I'm curious how you ended up there.  Let's talk.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Best,
> > > > > > > > > Matt Cooperrider
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > The P2P Foundation researches, documents and promotes peer to
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> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Basic essay at http://www.ctheory.net/articles.aspx?id=499;
> > > > > > interview at http://poynder.blogspot.com/2006/09/p2p-very-core-of-world-to-come.html
> > > > > >
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