[p2p-research] [P2PFNL] Ning and Knol

Mon Dec 17 16:24:19 CET 2007

Martien's concerns are one reason why I've been helping people experiment
with either ELGG http://elgg.org as an open source social network platform.
Especially for people who are interested in creating their own network.

I set up an example for a friend here a while back
http://socialsynergyweb.com/intentionalcommons

This has the same personal and group aggregation, and the system allows the
import/export of FOAF files, which has existed for quite a number of years
now, and *can* make all of your profiles and friends data totally portable
(so can XFN specification).

That being said, for connecting your network with *other* networks, Ning is
a decent option. Ning also is starting to support more open data formats in
the form of microformats.

Ning supports hcard, xfn, cite, and others. I know that some folks are
working on making all data exportable from Ning. So, overall it does not
seem like too bad of a deal.

On Dec 17, 2007 8:19 AM, Michel Bauwens <michelsub2004 at gmail.com> wrote:

> I'm understanding that campfire is an idea, but not an existing platform?
>
> Michel
>
> On Dec 17, 2007 7:59 PM, Martien van Steenbergen <Martien at aardbron.nl >
> wrote:
>
> > i know. it's too bad. camfire is an idea from 3 years ago or so. too
> > little funding at that time...
> >
> > On 17 Dec 2007, at 13:46 , james burke wrote:
> >
> > > campfire, sounds like a good idea, but the name kinda is pretty
> > > much taken - http://www.campfirenow.com/
> > > j
> > >
> > > On Dec 17, 2007 1:21 PM, Martien van Steenbergen <
> > > Martien at aardbron.nl> wrote:
> > > I find myself in a dilemma here. On one hand, I love social nets like
> > > Ning and see the value of quickly launching yet another peer group.
> > > On the other hand, there are sooooo many of these nets. Right now,
> > > I'm being Plaxo'ed to death... I can't keep up with all of them. And
> > > every time I have to enter my name, birth dat, hobbies, photo,
> > > professional history, etc. And they're often kind-a sluggish. And
> > > that keeps me from using them intensively.
> > >
> > > I want something that turns it inside out and that puts ME in
> > > control. And something that works smooth, silky and snappy. Something
> > > like Campfire...
> > >
> > >        http://wiki.aardrock.com/Campfire
> > >
> > > Succes en plezier,
> > >
> > >        Martien.
> > >
> > >
> > > On 17 Dec 2007, at 12:29 , Michel Bauwens wrote:
> > >
> > > > Dear friends:
> > > >
> > > > Ning is a do it yourself social network, founded by Marc
> > > Andreessen...
> > > >
> > > > My question is: does it make sense to create one for creating an
> > > > added community layer .... This would be a way to let various blogs
> > > > (mine, sam's etc..) work better together, in a neutral
> > > > environnement, and it integrates discussions etc...
> > > >
> > > > See http://www.ning.com/home/networks
> > > >
> > > > I also think we should be very fast on the ball when Google's Knol
> > > > is officially launched ...
> > > >
> > > > What do you think?
> > > >
> > > > Michel
> > > >
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