Delivered-To: kanzure@gmail.com Received: by 10.220.76.146 with SMTP id c18cs16480vck; Thu, 12 Feb 2009 21:47:15 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.210.38.5 with SMTP id l5mr1334450ebl.49.1234504034199; Thu, 12 Feb 2009 21:47:14 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from p10.alfaservers.com (p10.alfaservers.com [83.149.97.28]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id 24si2289684eyx.44.2009.02.12.21.47.13; Thu, 12 Feb 2009 21:47:14 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 83.149.97.28 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of p2presearch-bounces@listcultures.org) client-ip=83.149.97.28; Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 83.149.97.28 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of p2presearch-bounces@listcultures.org) smtp.mail=p2presearch-bounces@listcultures.org Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:38597 helo=p10.alfaservers.com) by p10.alfaservers.com with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1LXnqU-0002HH-NN; Fri, 13 Feb 2009 03:32:02 +0100 Received: from [74.208.5.67] (port=53491 helo=mail.gmx.com) by p10.alfaservers.com with smtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1LXnqT-0002H8-4U for p2presearch@listcultures.org; Fri, 13 Feb 2009 03:32:01 +0100 Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 13 Feb 2009 02:31:58 -0000 Received: from tor.tnode.com (EHLO [96.207.31.1]) [91.185.203.253] by mail.gmx.com (mp-us001) with SMTP; 12 Feb 2009 21:31:58 -0500 X-Authenticated: #49196414 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1+xDvAXlXaxOtHkKrm4slT5GcuyDuKJwW0/Lj9Alg DoYrRAD5UqF9nL Message-ID: <4994DB78.5080602@gmx.com> Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2009 02:31:20 +0000 From: Satoshi Nakamoto User-Agent: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 5.0 (1513) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Martien van Steenbergen References: <4993519E.8080300@gmx.com> <705E5B07-FAA9-4719-B3C3-E4854A19315D@AardRock.COM> <49947204.1090202@gmx.com> In-Reply-To: X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-FuHaFi: 0.65 Cc: p2presearch@listcultures.org Subject: Re: [p2p-research] Bitcoin open source implementation of P2P currency X-BeenThere: p2presearch@listcultures.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11.cp2 Precedence: list List-Id: p2p research network List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252"; Format="flowed" Sender: p2presearch-bounces@listcultures.org Errors-To: p2presearch-bounces@listcultures.org X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - p10.alfaservers.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - gmail.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - listcultures.org X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Martien van Steenbergen wrote: > Would love to also see support for not having to supply and > managing money. Would make it easier and cheaper to maintain > and results in have sufficient money, always and everywhere. > No scarcity, no abundance, exactly the right amount all times, > self-organizing. That's do-able. It can be programmed to follow any set of rules. I see Bitcoin as a foundation and first step if you want to implement = programmable P2P social currencies like Marc's ideas and others = discussed here. First you need normal, basic P2P currency working. = Once that is established and proven out, dynamic smart money is an easy = next step. I love the idea of virtual, non-geographic communities experimenting = with new economic paradigms. > Reminds me of: > = > * AardRock =BB Wizard Rabbit Treasurer > ; and > * AardRock =BB Pekunio Indeed, it is much like Pekunio in the concept of spraying redundant = copies of every transaction to a number of peers on the network, but the = implementation is not a reputation network like Wizard Rabbit Treasurer. = In fact, Bitcoin does not use reputation at all. It sees the network = as just a big crowd and doesn't much care who it talks to or who tells = it something, as long as at least one of them relays the information = being broadcast around the network. It doesn't care because there's no = way to lie to it. Either you tell it crypto proof of something, or it = ignores you. > Are you familiar with Ripple? As trust systems go, Ripple is unique in spreading trust around rather = than concentrating it. > Is bitcoin also available as a protocol spec (facilitating differen = > language bindings and implementations; unite on specs, compete on = > implementation). It would be best to refer to the C++ source code. I plan to implement = interfaces for using the software to send and receive transactions from = any language, so server side code can easily use it for web based = e-commerce sites. Satoshi _______________________________________________ p2presearch mailing list p2presearch@listcultures.org http://listcultures.org/mailman/listinfo/p2presearch_listcultures.org