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[76.167.237.202]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id j9sm12910084pbq.92.2015.06.15.18.20.30 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 15 Jun 2015 18:20:31 -0700 (PDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 8.2 \(2098\)) Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_BAACD978-19FA-4C1C-A031-79A489DB0DBB"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha512 X-Pgp-Agent: GPGMail 2.5b6 From: Eric Lombrozo <elombrozo@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <557F57B7.4050809@riseup.net> Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2015 18:20:28 -0700 Message-Id: <CF631FA3-03AB-419D-8945-D7E1D4BF53EF@gmail.com> References: <CALqxMTGBt7MNs5YWf8QzKe+4Fr-uKVimf8=VbytBANEDm=s50g@mail.gmail.com> <CANEZrP31AEson9DZ=ZU7d4t=DvmGodh1ja6EaZ6xQZ3bFEXeVA@mail.gmail.com> <557F57B7.4050809@riseup.net> To: odinn <odinn.cyberguerrilla@riseup.net> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.2098) X-Spam-Score: -0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: Spam Filtering performed by mx.sourceforge.net. 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All wallet developers (except > > Lawrence), all the major exchanges, all the major payment > > processors and many of the major mining pools want to see the limit > > lifted This is certainly twisting words! We all agree that the limit needs to eventually be lifted - but some of = us certainly disagree with the means being used to do so by Mike and = Gavin. Most news publications keep the discussion rather shallow and like to = keep the controversy pretty black and white - some of us have far more = nuanced views! - Eric Lombrozo --Apple-Mail=_A7FE93E1-A9CB-4BA7-B1FB-ABC8C65A8D76 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii <html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html = charset=3Dus-ascii"></head><body style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; = -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" = class=3D""><br class=3D""><div><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div = class=3D"">On Jun 15, 2015, at 3:54 PM, odinn <<a = href=3D"mailto:odinn.cyberguerrilla@riseup.net" = class=3D"">odinn.cyberguerrilla@riseup.net</a>> wrote:</div><br = class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=3D""><span = style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; = font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; = line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; = text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: = 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline = !important;" class=3D"">I also disagree with the notion that everybody's = just ok with what</span><br style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: = 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; = letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: = start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; = widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" = class=3D""><span style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; = font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; = letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: = start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; = widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: = none; display: inline !important;" class=3D"">Mike and Gavin are = doing.... specifically, this statement by Mike</span><br = style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; = font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; = line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; = text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: = 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=3D""><br style=3D"font-family:= Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; = font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; = orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: = none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; = -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-family: = Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; = font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; = orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: = none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; = -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline = !important;" class=3D"">> The consensus you seek does exist. All = wallet developers (except</span><br style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; = font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: = normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; = text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: = normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: = 0px;" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; = font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; = letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: = start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; = widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: = none; display: inline !important;" class=3D"">> Lawrence), all the = major exchanges, all the major payment</span><br style=3D"font-family: = Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; = font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; = orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: = none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; = -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-family: = Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; = font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; = orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: = none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; = -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline = !important;" class=3D"">> processors and many of the major mining = pools want to see the limit</span><br style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; = font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: = normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; = text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: = normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: = 0px;" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; = font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; = letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: = start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; = widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: = none; display: inline !important;" class=3D"">> = lifted</span></div></blockquote></div><br class=3D""><div class=3D""><br = class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">This is certainly twisting = words!</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">We all = agree that the limit needs to eventually be lifted - but some of us = certainly disagree with the means being used to do so by Mike and = Gavin.</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">Most = news publications keep the discussion rather shallow and like to keep = the controversy pretty black and white - some of us have far more = nuanced views!</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">-= Eric Lombrozo</div></body></html>= --Apple-Mail=_A7FE93E1-A9CB-4BA7-B1FB-ABC8C65A8D76-- --Apple-Mail=_BAACD978-19FA-4C1C-A031-79A489DB0DBB Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: Message signed with OpenPGP using GPGMail -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Comment: GPGTools - https://gpgtools.org iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJVf3ncAAoJEJNAI64YFENUMO4QAK3V1d3Bf5w49e+bdWjMly1S siXtr4AFeX69IJsd1FmInaW7zDUdPmhOemtC4mTbR1qc9AbEnQyIin/Fc7JbMv+Q efgc9gbIYDYr9Kbik3CpJaKTinY7mTcui9J02vgD39E/duOQ8GIyfbUgE/V1lbFS cBKeY186C9rUY1+kuwgmwlN0BCRDcpGyL+VrjIffCS5Y3Vkg/SdLVb9WyXlN6G15 OhKp+ejX5hKyC9MgsSj0SI4MT2WYbnSNiu8DZYy3/o+npJ2PexnOaYEYXEh4hMbR WWvEkUWnGmXQLcENfKYmilRmz60lOsqKb9QYBiFffgYiyMCrMSv4TbaupKCeDvCA tmJnUvprB2O/ZELILFyWOytNDS06u9W/BQbEnUAiVDHzKvxpPVml+McHCFTx8V0K ilqhefyjla7BfIf/nryj7qYDQFW7epRoijWoW0QjY/9MZ8xxJ60j16IyVL52FzTc B6EC1p7K4bkcirbf3ppxUQcAuT8K0y7VpJcFdZACYGgswqivlLA7TI8uwBt6BmoX XLYZOYox+e8wIRdTmrszltbr2dwp/fk/sZM5XqVkcaQ6j9ZQQ+2K8ofPkBandsyr 1mIGVT20bFrflMfgxpIaq5xnTz4YRH/1B7+VafCmI31fVbJZ+fvgDP3rL1u6Mule OhH2jBugDRfF8e4J4JN1 =frto -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Apple-Mail=_BAACD978-19FA-4C1C-A031-79A489DB0DBB--