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From: =?UTF-8?B?RMOibmllbA==?= Fraga <fragabr@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2014 00:06:13 -0200
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Subject: Re: [Bitcoin-development] Suggestion: allow receivers to pay
 optional fee for transactions without fees
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	This is good news! Thank you very much Ben for the answer.

On Thu, 16 Jan 2014 17:52:39 -0800
Ben Davenport <bendavenport@gmail.com> wrote:

> You can create a transaction which spends the output to yourself, attachi=
ng
> a fee to that transaction. In order for miners to grab the transaction fee
> on that transaction, they would have to also mine the original transactio=
n.
> Likely, you'd have to do this by hand, but software could be written to
> simplify doing it. No protocol changes needed.
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> Ben
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> On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 5:39 PM, D=C3=A2niel Fraga <fragabr@gmail.com> wr=
ote:
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> >         Someone sent me a very small donation (0.00121 BTC) without
> > paying fees. I don't know who sent it and I know this type of
> > transaction are usually rejected by miners. Take a look at it below:
> >
> > https://imageshack.com/i/ngv5g8j
> >
> >         Even with the a low probability of confirmation, I
> > was hoping that after a few days it could be included in a block, but
> > Blockchain.info simply removed it (I know the sender sent from a
> > Blockchain.info wallet, because he added a note):
> >
> >
> > https://blockchain.info/pt/tx/3cde47ee3979a46b36bd61bdb0caf9c11dea58ac9=
9f17fb17b95728766de70e0
> >
> >         As you can see now it shows as "Transaction not found".
> >
> >         My suggestion is: it would be nice if the receiver could have a
> > chance to pay the fee when the sender didn't pay any fee. For example,
> > I could pay a fee of 0.0001 BTC and receive 0.00121 BTC. In the end I'd
> > have 0.00111 BTC. Better than nothing.
> >
> >         Would it be technically possible to do that or it would be too
> > much trouble to change the protocol to allow the receiver to pay an
> > optional fee?
> >
> >         Ps: I'm not a programmer, but if the receiver could
> > optionally "attach" some fee to the transaction, even if he/she didn't
> > sent the transaction, this could be solved. Bitcoin-qt could even warn
> > the receiver he received a transaction without fee and if he wants
> > faster confirmation he could pay a fee.
> >
> >         Ps2: if this is a silly suggestion, just ignore it. I tried on
> > Bitcointalk, but nobody answered.
> >
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