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From: Ryan Breen <ryan@breen.xyz>
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Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2024 11:24:06 -0500
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To: Michael Folkson <michaelfolkson@protonmail.com>,
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Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] Swift Activation - CTV
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> On Jan 2, 2024, at 10:50=E2=80=AFAM, Michael Folkson via bitcoin-dev <bitc=
oin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org> wrote:
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> Your knowledge is incorrect. As far as I know in the getting on for 2 year=
s since the first CTV activation talk/attempt literally no one has built out=
 a CTV use case and demonstrated it on signet with the possible exception of=
 James O'Beirne's OP_VAULT which requires other new opcodes in addition to C=
TV. I wish this wasn't the case. It is pitiful that we have these individual=
s (such as yourself) that are so convinced CTV should be activated but refus=
e to address any concerns raised by others and refuse to work on any of the s=
peculated use cases, instead choosing to just beat the activation drum over a=
nd over again.

James O=E2=80=99Beirne built a CTV-only vault prototype[1], actually. Jeremy=
 Rubin also built vaults and many other prototypes with his Sapio smart cont=
racting language.[2]

So this assertion that CTV has had no use cases or prototypes built out for i=
t is just not true.

[1]: https://github.com/jamesob/simple-ctv-vault
[2]: https://github.com/sapio-lang/sapio=

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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto"><div dir=3D"ltr"></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br=
></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br><blockquote type=3D"cite">On Jan 2, 2024, at 10:=
50=E2=80=AFAM, Michael Folkson via bitcoin-dev &lt;bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfo=
undation.org&gt; wrote:<br></blockquote></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div=
 dir=3D"ltr"><div style=3D"font-size: 14px;"><div dir=3D"auto" style=3D"font=
-family: system-ui, sans-serif; line-height: 1.5;"><br></div><div dir=3D"aut=
o" style=3D"font-family: system-ui, sans-serif; line-height: 1.5;">Your know=
ledge is incorrect. As far as I know in the getting on for 2 years since the=
 first CTV activation talk/attempt literally no one has built out a CTV use c=
ase and demonstrated it on signet with the possible exception of James O'Bei=
rne's OP_VAULT which requires other new opcodes in addition to CTV. I wish t=
his wasn't the case. It is pitiful that we have these individuals (such as y=
ourself) that are so convinced CTV should be activated but refuse to address=
 any concerns raised by others and refuse to work on any of the speculated u=
se cases, instead choosing to just beat the activation drum over and over ag=
ain.</div></div></div></blockquote><br><div>James O=E2=80=99Beirne built a C=
TV-only vault prototype[1], actually. Jeremy Rubin also built vaults and man=
y other prototypes with his Sapio smart contracting language.[2]</div><div><=
br></div><div>So this assertion that CTV has had no use cases or prototypes b=
uilt out for it is just not true.</div><div><br></div><div>[1]:&nbsp;<a href=
=3D"https://github.com/jamesob/simple-ctv-vault">https://github.com/jamesob/=
simple-ctv-vault</a></div><div>[2]:&nbsp;<a href=3D"https://github.com/sapio=
-lang/sapio">https://github.com/sapio-lang/sapio</a></div></body></html>=

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