Received: from sog-mx-2.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com ([172.29.43.192] helo=mx.sourceforge.net) by sfs-ml-4.v29.ch3.sourceforge.com with esmtp (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from <tamas@bitsofproof.com>) id 1WXDbs-00024v-Ml for bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net; Mon, 07 Apr 2014 17:45:28 +0000 X-ACL-Warn: Received: from wp059.webpack.hosteurope.de ([80.237.132.66]) by sog-mx-2.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.76) id 1WXDbq-0004c7-UX for bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net; Mon, 07 Apr 2014 17:45:28 +0000 Received: from [37.143.74.116] (helo=[192.168.2.2]); authenticated by wp059.webpack.hosteurope.de running ExIM with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) id 1WXDbk-0003NS-4e; Mon, 07 Apr 2014 19:45:20 +0200 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_E4A7A2E6-A9FB-4EC4-BC60-C1D320574B2B"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.2 \(1874\)) From: Tamas Blummer <tamas@bitsofproof.com> In-Reply-To: <CANEZrP3_v2zAqMkcTtQ1Mys2rUEcsd_MpLySefpgJ-P7OSg34g@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2014 19:45:30 +0200 Message-Id: <7B25C2BD-79AF-4D97-824B-29E9B7E32C2F@bitsofproof.com> References: <CANEZrP2rgiQHpekEpFviJ22QsiV+s-F2pqosaZOA5WrRtJx5pg@mail.gmail.com> <5342C833.5030906@gmail.com> <CAAS2fgTqBfEPXh2dfcL_ke6c0wfXw4qUM1rAYMkAHcAM6mYH+g@mail.gmail.com> <5342D1DB.8060203@monetize.io> <CAAS2fgRu-0C_ozaN0qSc9SvF2TpZ56NwceLCrfQjikuQgc85tQ@mail.gmail.com> <5342D9FA.8080102@monetize.io> <CAAS2fgT5xfYzup01+USkFmFWi=FtDfbPY1HPpTLyQ+6_ejGOZA@mail.gmail.com> <CACvcBVq2+37jWgxBg2Zjj6KFtT1ZnZzTa7FOw1sLwimeT0ahhA@mail.gmail.com> <CANEZrP3_v2zAqMkcTtQ1Mys2rUEcsd_MpLySefpgJ-P7OSg34g@mail.gmail.com> To: Mike Hearn <mike@plan99.net> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1874) X-bounce-key: webpack.hosteurope.de; tamas@bitsofproof.com; 1396892727; 4b822c1c; X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) X-Spam-Report: Spam Filtering performed by mx.sourceforge.net. See http://spamassassin.org/tag/ for more details. 1.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message X-Headers-End: 1WXDbq-0004c7-UX Cc: Bitcoin Development <bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net> Subject: Re: [Bitcoin-development] Why are we bleeding nodes? X-BeenThere: bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <bitcoin-development.lists.sourceforge.net> List-Unsubscribe: <https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bitcoin-development>, <mailto:bitcoin-development-request@lists.sourceforge.net?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_name=bitcoin-development> List-Post: <mailto:bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net> List-Help: <mailto:bitcoin-development-request@lists.sourceforge.net?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bitcoin-development>, <mailto:bitcoin-development-request@lists.sourceforge.net?subject=subscribe> X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Apr 2014 17:45:28 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_E4A7A2E6-A9FB-4EC4-BC60-C1D320574B2B Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_82F50114-AEC5-47DE-8CFF-98A4778EFD9F" --Apple-Mail=_82F50114-AEC5-47DE-8CFF-98A4778EFD9F Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I rather prefer to start with SPV and upgrade to full node, if desired. Tamas Blummer http://bitsofproof.com On 07.04.2014, at 19:40, Mike Hearn <mike@plan99.net> wrote: >=20 > Actually, I wonder if we should start shipping (auditable) pre-baked = databases calculated up to the last checkpoint so people can download = them and boot up their node right away. Recalculating the entire thing = from scratch every time isn't sustainable in the long run anyway. >=20 --Apple-Mail=_82F50114-AEC5-47DE-8CFF-98A4778EFD9F Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii <html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html = charset=3Dus-ascii"></head><body style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; = -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;"><div>I = rather prefer to start with SPV and upgrade to full node, if = desired.</div><br><div apple-content-edited=3D"true"><span style=3D"color:= rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: = normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: = normal; line-height: normal; text-align: -webkit-auto; text-indent: 0px; = text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; = -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; orphans: 2; widows: 2; float: none; = display: inline !important;">Tamas Blummer</span><span style=3D"color: = rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: = normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: = normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; = text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: = auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;"><br = style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; = font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; = letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; text-align: -webkit-auto; = text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; = word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; orphans: 2; widows: = 2;"><span style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; = font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: = normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; text-align: = -webkit-auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: = normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; orphans: 2; = widows: 2; float: none; display: inline !important;"><a = href=3D"http://bitsofproof.com">http://bitsofproof.com</a></span> </span></div> <br><div><div>On 07.04.2014, at 19:40, Mike Hearn <<a = href=3D"mailto:mike@plan99.net">mike@plan99.net</a>> wrote:</div><br = class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div = dir=3D"ltr"><div><br> </div><div>Actually, I wonder if we should start shipping (auditable) = pre-baked databases calculated up to the last checkpoint so people can = download them and boot up their node right away. Recalculating the = entire thing from scratch every time isn't sustainable in the long run = anyway.</div> </div><div = class=3D"gmail_extra"><br></div></blockquote></div><br></body></html>= --Apple-Mail=_82F50114-AEC5-47DE-8CFF-98A4778EFD9F-- --Apple-Mail=_E4A7A2E6-A9FB-4EC4-BC60-C1D320574B2B Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: Message signed with OpenPGP using GPGMail -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Comment: GPGTools - http://gpgtools.org iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJTQuQ6AAoJEPZykcUXcTkcigQIAKdMdgKloU0iKbR/yHxSbY1C ki6YG5hrCiPXMYV2SQgA/e4XYTU5jvSphMVFDAeQjmJ9HkjPgN+mSwhtLqKD8agk s/rKJNkW9gIAMmFxNdNRW2GU1xr+d5fwX6Kki5gz1t/J7m+Vz4K9rlNvAUwiBb9D eLSWbbWT59FpbpzfBNVJgnoaErQ1VtS8cllMAuB+VCvuB0j4ZftP2HsDcushTnJv aG3igronXgmZXYnhyS60yiY3mELyU09ubL8dZE4ji6YK6skBmSgoATBu9Yp7iqKd 5tmzz0CQ8Ukoe4uZqNjgUW4XFWSjjyWpYkBNgXpzdQhW2CXEc7OKRR688uTdVZs= =DLWW -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Apple-Mail=_E4A7A2E6-A9FB-4EC4-BC60-C1D320574B2B--